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As I said before
送交者: mean 2015月05月15日06:25:29 于 [彩虹之约] 发送悄悄话
回  答: L is real as 犹大 is for msc 于 2015-05-14 20:21:19
only an assumption of efficiency would irrevocably tie U with L. I've always said that all branches of Christianity (except universalism) believe in L in some form, but there is quite an important philosophical difference between limited salvation as a result of limited election (4-point calvinists), vs. limited atonement despite giving the reprobate a token (and fake) offer (5-point calvinists). this is exactly why we need solid scripture basis to back up every point of doctrine, no matter what it is.



as I've said before "耶稣为人人死" is the very definition of un-L, even if “好牧人为羊舍命” suggests L. the assumption that people like Judas were not elected therefore Jesus didn't die for them simply does not stand on solid scriptural ground.
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