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中国、美国超市的“龙利鱼片”是越南鲶鱼（Swai），不是深海比目鱼 组图
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Swai / Basa / Tra - Vietnamese Catfish - Shark Catfish On the Internet, there are more outright lies about these fish than just about any other food item - lies spread mainly by unethical catfish farmers who, faced with competition, chose smear campaigns and political manipulation rather than improving their methods to compete. See Catfish Wars below. Is it safe to eat? Yes, it has been confirmed as safe as American catfish by independent testing labs, major food distributors (and their insurance companies), and the U.S. Federal Government. They are very low in mercury and are also also easier on the environment than most farmed fish. They are omnivores and can be grown on mostly vegetable matter rather than the wild caught fish and crustaceans many other farmed fish require. Vietnamese catfish, a genus known as "Shark Catfish" from their shape, are quite different from American Channel Catfish. It takes quite a bit of careful trimming to make fillets that are interchangeable with American fillets. They still vary slightly, being wider, thinner and more delicate in flavor and texture. In the Mekong these fish can grow to over 3 feet long, but farmed fish are harvested much smaller. The photo specimen, P. bocourti, was 17-1/4 inches long and weighed 2 pounds 6 ounces. Two varieties are widely farmed, Basa (P. pangasius) and Swai / Tra (P. hypophthalmus), but what is shipped to the U.S. is mostly Swai. Basa is preferred in Vietnam but, since U.S. buyers don't care, the faster growing Swai is shipped. Swai fillets are thinner and a little coarser than Basa.
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Fillets can weigh anywhere between 2 ounces to over 11 ounces, but they are sold in bags containing only a single size. These fillets can be used in place of regular catfish, or for many fish recipes not traditionally used with catfish. Most Americans don't even know Swai is catfish. The fillets are light in flavor and stay firm enough for most methods of cooking where fillets are called for.
Most Americans have never seen a Basa or Swai in it's natural form. Nor had I, but back in early 2011 I felt myself fortunate to find frozen ones in a very large Asian market here in Los Angeles. Now, over a year later, they are easily found on ice in the Philippine markets. The 2011 model was very skillfully factory cleaned by making a small cut under the jaw. For the photo and uncleaned weight I reversed this by stuffing the fish with wet paper towels. Like any other catfish, Basa and Swai have no scales (so are not kosher). They are fairly easy to clean and fillet, though there is a heavy bone extending from the top of the head up to the dorsal fin. It's best to fillet from the top down to the backbone, then over the backbone from the tail forward. Cut the rib cage away from the backbone with kitchen shears. Pull the ribs with long nose pliers - they come out very easily, taking almost no flesh. There are no centerline spines to deal with - the filets will be entirely bone free. The photo shows the fillet cut from the Basa at the top of the page, including the first trimming cuts. At the top of the photo is the part that is further prepared for export to North America. Bottom left is the belly, which is mostly fat and not particularly appetizing. Lining the inside of the belly are additional large deposits of fat, some of which is shown to the lower right. In Vietnam, local uses are found for these offcuts.
To the left is shown the skin side of a skin-off fillet, displaying the considerable amount of "red meat". This has a strong oily taste and must be removed for the fillet to be acceptable for export. I don't know how they do that, but they do a very nice job of it. I was surprised to find the head, bones and fins simmered for 1/2 hour made a quite serviceable stock without a strong flavor. Seeing competition from Vietnam, American catfish farmers organized an expedition to that country to gather dirt for a propaganda campaign. They found no dirt. As one catfish man said, "We went expecting to find catfish raised in polluted waters and processed in primitive facilities. That's not what we found, and we're scared to death". With the actual truth solidly against them by their own admission, American catfish farmers have proven less ethical than even the Congress critters they seek to "influence". They have succeeded in getting legislation passed interfering with imports of Vietnamese fish, though that success has turned into a sort of comedy of errors. They have also spread lying articles all over the Internet, some so absurd only Tea Party members could believe them. Their advertising campaigns have been denounced as deception and half truths even by the U.S. Government. Some Internet articles have even played the "mercury in fish" card. Mercury is a problem only with large predatory fish living in the oceans - and not much of a problem even there. Vietnamese catfish is a freshwater fish and not a predator, so mercury is not a concern. At the behest of the catfish farmers, Congress passed a law that only "Channel Catfish" could be called "Catfish" in the United States, preventing some 2000 other species of catfish from being called catfish. Distributors briefly called Vietnamese catfish "China Sole", but that was a bit deceptive, so they settled on "Basa". That was also a little inaccurate, because what was being shipped here was mostly Swai. Americans can't tell the two apart, but the Vietnamese can, and keep the Basa for themselves. Vietnamese catfish is now packaged and sold mostly as "Swai", which is accurate. The major effect of this name change is that Americans who think they don't like catfish now buy this fish and enjoy it - but it gets even worse for the catfish farmers. The Chinese started raising Channel Cat for export to the United States. As is usual in Chinese practice, the product was often adulterated. This caused the Feds to require extra testing (at extra cost). Knowing the Chinese would find a way to sneak their fish in disguised as American raised catfish, the testing is required for all catfish. This means added cost for American catfish growers as well. Now, guess who's catfish doesn't need to pay the inspection cost because it can't be called "Catfish". So the catfish farmers went back to Congress asking for the Vietnamese to be forced to call their product "Catfish". They also asked for import control to be transferred from the FDA to the USDA, a process that could have stopped Vietnamese imports for up to three years. Both these efforts have failed - so far. Of course the American catfish industry is actually suffering, and production has declined, but it's not primarily from Vietnamese competition. The main cause is much higher feed costs resulting from Congress's brain dead "Food into SUV Fuel" ethanol program. sf_catvnz 110310 - www.clovegarden.com©Andrew Grygus - agryg@clovegaden.com - Photos on this page not otherwise credited are © cg1 - Linking to and non-commercial use of this page permitted
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Swai-Iridescent shark photo
Is Swai and Basa safe? Wow! What a loaded question surrounded by mystery, power, intrigue and deceit. I had to do a lot of reading for this one. First, let’s set the stage. There is a lot of negative information (mostly false) about catfish from Vietnam (Basa & Swai), including a very inflammatory video saying that the fish are raised in filth ridden cesspools of pollution and sold to the US market. Most of this information is propaganda. The Start of the Catfish Wars In 2002 the catfish industry found that they had lost 20% of catfish sales to Vietnamese catfish. In response, the Catfish Farmers of America did what has become all too common in America today… they shed their integrity and lobbied, whined and complained to Congress to pass some sort of legislation which would hinder or outlaw their competition. They asked Congress to pass a law which would define market place “catfish” in the U.S. as being only the “Channel Catfish” species which they raised. It was an unethical move which unfortunately Congress supported. In 2003 Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott introduced a measure in the U.S. Senate – through an obscure amendment attached to an unrelated appropriations bill – which stated that only the U.S. species of catfish could be called “catfish” in the U.S. market place. Congress passed this law and made it illegal for any of the other 2000+ varieties of scientifically recognized catfish to be sold in the U.S., including (especially) Vietnamese catfish. It was after this legislation that Vietnamese Catfish was re-marketed as Basa and Swai or Tra. Additionally, Congress also placed high tariffs on the import of Vietnamese Basa & Swai. There is some evidence that the Vietnamese government subsidized these fish farms so that the product could be sold to the US market at below cost prices in order to edge-out U.S. catfish. There may be good evidence to support this charge, but you’ll have to research this part yourself to determine its veracity.
Catfish Wars Failure Despite these setbacks and all the negative marketing (kind of like an election campaign!), Vietnamese catfish (Basa and Swai) was still the 10th most popular seafood among U.S. consumers in 2009. And in several blind tastings [1] [2] people preferred Basa over U.S. Catfish. Additionally, an independent study on the safety, nutrition and taste of Vietnamese catfish was done by Doug Marshall, a professor of food science and technology at Mississippi State, and graduate student at Amit Pal. He evaluated Basa and Channel Catfish by asking three questions: Did one have more bacteria than the other? How about nutrition? What about taste? The frozen imports were compared to frozen, farm-raised channel catfish from local grocery stores. "Both fish were about the same in terms of quality and safety indicators," Marshall said. Also, nutritionally, both fish were about the same, though the US fish were a bit fattier" he said. In another article dated 2001 a group of U.S. catfish farmers and processors traveled to Vietnam on a fact-finding mission. “We thought we’d find them growing fish in polluted water and processing them in crude plants,” says one processor who went on the trip. “But that’s not what we found. We came back scared to death.” The Vietnamese operations were vastly better than what they had expected. Catfish Farmers Try New Tactic in Catfish War In 2008, seeing that Basa & Swai were becoming threats again to the catfish industry, the catfish lobby went back to congress with a new agenda. They had complained six years ago that if was not fair for the Vietnamese to call their fish “catfish” and lobbied Congress to make it illegal to do so. It didn’t work, so now they complained that they want Basa and Swai to be forced to be called catfish! This change would create a lot of red tape which would hurt the Vietnamese import while they scramble to implement changes established by the new law. The U.S. catfish industry also lobbied to have the oversight of imported catfish changed from the jurisdiction of the Food and Drug Administration to the Department of Agriculture. Since negotiating international agreements on food inspections usually takes two to five years, this change could mean Vietnamese Basa and Swai imports are barred until negotiations are completed. The U.S. catfish lobby is simply trying to legislate the elimination of their competition. In October 2010 the Catfish Farmers of America (CFA) started a new media campaign with a TV ad. The 30-second ad shows a woman serving two children a meal. “Did you know only 2 percent of imported seafood is inspected? The Mekong River in Vietnam, full of contaminants, sends us 100 million pounds of catfish each year, and 98 percent gets served for dinner un-inspected,” she says. “Congress voted to fix this problem, but the White House won’t act. Mr. President, please, make our families’ health and safety your No. 1 concern.”
“This is just another sad chapter in a special interest’s effort to keep choices from the American consumer. Imported fish undergoes the same strict safety controls that domestic catfish has undergone for more than 10 years,” said NFI President John Connelly. “In the past decade seafood, both imported and domestic, has enjoyed an excellent food-safety record because the public health professionals regulating seafood at the FDA know their jobs. Claiming this is anything other than a trade issue is as laughable as the exaggerated concern seen in this ad.” The Bottom Line on Swai and Basa Safety A highly inflammatory video regarding Basa farming is popular on YouTube. I believe that much of this video is propaganda to keep Americans buying US catfish. Although I support buying American products, I don't believe that every Vietnamese aqua farmer is raising fish in sewage and that the US allows them to dump their filth into our food system. Have you been visited by the health inspector lately? Do you really believe they would allow sewage infested fish into the country? Someone is being deceitful. Bottom line--know and trust your vendor and supplier. If it is a major food supply company like Sysco (who sells Swai from the Mekong River), they have a multi-million dollar insurance policy simply to protect their customers from the ramifications of bad food. Companies such as this use highly integrated tracking systems and require traceability through-out the entire food chain back to the original source. They are not going to purchase a product which is unhealthy, dangerous, poisonous, polluted, or in some other way liable to cost them a law suit. Another reputable company is iPura. According to iPura Director of Business Development Ron Calonica “iPura products are monitored throughout the food chain all the way to delivery. Products are tested at the grow-out ponds before they are allowed into the plant and then retested during processing before packaging in a clean room that is cleaner than a hospital surgical room, reducing the chances for cross contamination; it is then monitored with temperature chips during transportation and cold storage. This ensures that data is accumulated, stored, and made available upon request, which allows the tracking system to validate that the product has not lost its integrity throughout the entire process of getting it to the end user.” “One of the nicest features iPura delivers is cleaner safer sustainable seafood that can be trusted. All iPura products are insured 110% against regulatory interventions such as recalls, rejection, etc." Ron says. "The only reason that iPura qualifies for that type of insurance is because of the extraordinary steps taken to ensure that the product is clean and free of dangerous pathogens, etc., insurers realize that their risk has been reduced tremendously. Retailers love it because they realize that iPura helps protects their image and brand. Food Safety is Good Business! ” Many companies, including iPura, use Trace Register to track the products they purchase and redistribute. Trace Register operates out of Seattle, but has offices throughout the world. Founded in 2005, Trace Register grew from a simple yet ambitious idea. What if we could trust what we buy, every time we buy—that it won’t make us sick; that it is what it says on the label; that it does not damage the planet, harm the community, or exploit the people producing it?
After extensive research and development, the Trace RegisterTM system was introduced as a powerful yet pragmatic solution for food traceability. Ours is a system that: •Incorporates the latest technology, standards, and advances in food production
Additional Reading:
November 2001 Buyer’s Guide-Basa Catfish - Seafood Business Magazine November 2001
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Pangasius for local consumption are grown in squalid conditions because the people live in squalid conditions. Commercial farms of enormous scale grow tens of thousands of fish in each pond. Swai are schooling fish so they naturally congregate and swim in dense schools. They are fed certified feed, which is traceable. 10% of the fish is used. All refuse of rendered down into food grade fish oil and fish meal. The Mekong is an enormous watershed and the volume of water that flows through daily is amazing. It is the same color as the Mississippi River, the big muddy, loaded with nutrients from the Himalayan mountains and the jungles of Cambodia and Laos. I have been inside some of these factories there, they are enormous, with care given to cleanliness and product quality for the US market. Are there some fly-by-night facilities? Yeah, they most likely serve the local market. you can take a video of this and then put it on the internet and create a completely false narrative. Who really wants to see Swai struggle? Most likely those with large vested interest in Tilapia. Swai is a far better fish to work with than Tilapia. The one thing Tilapia has working for it is it can be skinned and fillet by machine...Swai require thousands of workers with knives.
I agree that just because a vendor has an insurance policy it doesn't mean we can trust them or that they have our best interests in mind. However, the majority of the negative press about swai and basa has come from the catfish lobby, catfish region politicians, and catfish farmers. Do you think they are more trustworthy than the food vendors? I think that the bottom line is still the same...ask the right questions, trust no one without verification of trustworthiness and due diligence (whether it be swai fish, scallops, or the London Bridge!), and only eat/sell what you yourself are confident of.
Nah - they have such a huge insurance policy to protect themselves, with the cost of insurance typically reflecting the risk. That large policy is not for the protection of consumers, assumed to be too broke for a lawyer anyway. Besides, I personally would rather have my health than money (if I survive) and have to live with the aftermath. Just because a corporation carries insurance does not indicate that I should eat their product.
五彩苏瓦伊的鲨鱼照片 图片来自维基共享。照片信息可以在这里 苏瓦伊和巴萨安全吗？哇！一个加载的问题是什么神秘，权力，阴谋和欺骗包围。我不得不做大量的阅读为这一个。首先，让我们搭建了舞台。有很多来自越南的鲶鱼（BASA苏瓦伊）（多半是假的）负面信息，包括炎症视频说，鱼提出藏污纳垢缠身的粪坑污染，并销往美国市场。这种信息多数是宣传。 鲶鱼战争的开始 鲶鱼产业在2002年发现，他们已经失去了20％的鲶鱼销售到越南鲶鱼。作为回应，美国鲶鱼养殖户做了什么，已成为今天在美国太常见了......，他们流下其完整性和游说，发着牢骚，抱怨国会通过某种形式的立法，这将阻碍或禁止他们的竞争。他们要求国会通过一项法律，将定义在美国市场的“鲶鱼”，只有“斑点叉尾鮰”他们提出的物种。这是一个不道德的举动，不幸的是，国会支持。 2003年密西西比州参议员特伦特·洛特在美国参议院提出一项措施 - 通过一个不起眼的无关的拨款法案的修正案 - 这表示，只有美国的鲶鱼物种可以被称为“鲶鱼”在美国市场的地方。 国会通过这项法律，非法任何2000 +科学界公认的鲶鱼在美国销售的品种，包括（尤其是）越南鲶鱼的。在这项法例，越南鲶鱼被重新销售作为巴萨和苏瓦伊的或茶。 此外，美国国会也寄予了很高的关税，对进口越南巴萨苏瓦伊的。有一些证据表明，越南政府补贴，使该产品可以销往美国市场以低于成本的价格，以边缘的美国鲶鱼这些鱼养殖场。有可能是很好的证据支持这一指控，但你必须自己研究这部分，以确定其真实性。 鲶鱼战争失败 尽管有这些挫折和所有的负面营销（有点像竞选！），越南鲶鱼（巴萨和苏瓦伊）仍然是美国消费者在2009年10大最受欢迎的海鲜。而且在一些盲品[1] [2]人首选巴萨对美国鲶鱼。 此外，越南鲶鱼的安全，营养和口味的一项独立研究是由道格·马歇尔，食品科学和技术在密西西比州立教授和研究生阿米特帕尔。他评价巴萨和斑点叉尾鮰问三个问题：一个有更多的细菌比其他？营养怎么样？味道怎么样？ 进口的冷冻冷冻，农场饲养的斑点叉尾鮰从当地的杂货店。 “这两种鱼大致相同的质量和安全性指标方面，”马歇尔说。此外，营养，无论是鱼大致相同，但美国的鱼有点油腻“他说。 在2001年的另一篇文章中，一个组一个事实调查团前往越南，美国鲶鱼养殖和处理器。 “我们认为我们会发现它们在受污染的水中生长的鱼，加工原油植物，说：”谁去旅行的一个处理器。 “但是，这不是我们的发现。我们回来吓死。“越南的操作比他们预期的好得多。 鲶鱼养殖鲶鱼战争中尝试新战术 2008年，鲶鱼大堂看到，巴萨苏瓦伊的再次成为威胁鲶鱼产业，回去向国会提交一项新议程。六年前，他们曾抱怨，如果越南打电话给他们的“鲶鱼”的鱼是不公平的，并游说国会，使其非法这样做。它没有工作，所以现在他们抱怨说，他们想巴萨和苏瓦伊的到被迫成为所谓的鲶鱼！这种变化会创造了很多的繁文缛节，这会伤害越南进口，而他们争相实施变化建立新的法律。 美国鲶鱼产业还游说监督到农业部管辖的食品和药物管理局从进口鲶鱼。国际协定谈判食品检验通常需要二至五年以来，这种变化可能意味着越南巴萨和苏瓦伊进口被禁止，直到谈判结束。美国鲶鱼大堂立法只是想消灭他们的竞争对手。 美国（CFA），鲶鱼养殖户在2010年10月开始了一个新的媒体宣传活动，配备了电视广告。 30秒的广告显示了一个女人，两个孩子服了一顿。 “你知道吗，只有2％的进口海鲜检查？在越南湄公河，充满污染物，发送100万磅的鲶鱼，每年供应98％得到晚餐取消视察，“她说。 “国会投票来解决这个问题，但白宫将不会采取行动。主席先生，请让我们的家人的健康和安全1号的关注。“ 国家渔业协会（NTI）回应指责终审法院再次歪曲事实，企图吓唬美国消费者只购买美国提出的鲶鱼。 NFI进一步说，这种新的广告充满了“半真理和虚伪”。 “这是一个特殊利益的努力，从美国消费者的选择，只是一个悲伤的一章。 NFI主席约翰·康奈利说，“经过同样严格的安全控制，已经历了超过10年的国内鲶鱼的进口鱼。 “在过去的十年海鲜，进口和国产的，有着优良的食品安全记录规范的公共卫生专业人员在FDA的海鲜，因为知道自己的工作。声称这是任何其他比贸易问题是可笑的夸张关注，看到这个广告。“ 在苏瓦伊和巴萨安全底线 关于巴萨养殖是一个高度炎症视频在YouTube上流行。我相信，该视频是宣传让美国人购买美国鲶鱼。虽然我支持买美国的产品，我不相信，每一个越南水产农民养鱼污水中，美国允许他们进入我们的食物系统转储自己的污秽。你一直健康检查参观了吗？你真的相信，他们将允许进入该国污水鱼出没？有人是骗人的。 底线 - 知道并信任你的供应商和供应商。如果它是一个主要的食品供应公司西斯科（销售苏瓦伊距离湄公河）等，他们有一个多亿美元的保险政策，从坏的食物的后果，只是为了保护他们的客户。如公司使用高度集成的跟踪系统，并恢复到原来的源需要通过整个食物链的可追溯性。他们不会购买产品，这是不健康的，危险的，有毒，有污染，或任何其他方式花费他们的诉讼。 另一个著名公司iPura。据业务发展罗恩Calonica的“iPura产品iPura主任被监视整个食品链中所有的方式交付。产品测试在成鱼池才获准进厂，然后重新测试期间处理，然后包装在一个干净的房间，这是比医院手术室的清洁，减少交叉污染的机会;然后监测芯片温度在运输和冷库。这将确保该数据积累，存储，并提供请求时，它允许的跟踪系统，以验证该产品并没有失去其完整性，在整个过程中得到它的最终用户。“ “其中一个最好的功能iPura提供的是清洁安全的可持续海鲜是可以信任的。所有iPura产品投保110％，如召回，拒绝对监管干预，“罗恩说，”唯一的原因，iPura符合这种类型的保险是因为采取的特别措施，以确保该产品是干净的，自由危险病原体等，保险公司意识到，他们的风险已大大降低。零售商喜欢它，因为他们意识到，iPura有助于保护自己的形象和品牌。食品安全是好生意！ “ 许多公司，包括iPura，使用，跟踪注册跟踪他们购买的产品和再分配。跟踪注册经营的西雅图，但在世界各地设有办事处。跟踪注册成立于2005年，从一个简单而又雄心勃勃的理念增长。如果我们能相信我们买什么，每次我们买的，它不会使我们生病，这是它的标签上说什么，它不会破坏地球，危害社会，或剥削人民生产呢？ 经过广泛的研究和发展，跟踪RegisterTM系统被引入作为一个功能强大且务实的解决方案，对食品可追溯性。我们是一个系统， ◦任何公司都可以使用，无需投资昂贵，专有技术。 ◦捕获和共享信息有关各类食品在供应链中的每一步。 ◦增强的物理供应链，连接所有的贸易伙伴从源头到市场“信息供应链”。 •采用最新的技术，标准和食品生产的进步 更多阅读： 2001年11月采购指南巴萨鲶鱼 - 海鲜商业杂志2001年11月 美国鲶鱼战争的失败蜇越南 - 亚洲时报“2003年7月 越南有美味的鱼比美国 - IOL 2005年7月 鲶鱼战争“：为什么是美国封锁越南资本主义进展？ - 福克斯新闻网2006年2月 进口鲶鱼是否对健康构成威胁吗？ - 食品安全新闻2010年2月 越南鲶鱼会发生什么？ - 三月SeafoodSource.com 2010 NFI：美国鲶鱼大堂的歪曲真相 - 2010年10月SeafoodSource.com 认证的负责任的鱼的需求增长 - 2010年11月SeafoodSource.com 监管障碍和名称变化到目前为止还没有停止进口的日益普及 - 海鲜商业杂志2011年4月 对于鲶鱼，天空的极限 - 2011年4月SeafoodSource.com （鱼）吃谦卑饼 - 由斯特鲁恩史蒂文森在Qualasa专业 特别兴趣鲶鱼大堂的失真强制 - 2011年七月SeafoodSource.com日 你有没有发现有关的信息是越南苏瓦伊的巴萨安全吗？有用吗？或者你有其他问题或信息要补充？ 如果是这样，发表评论！ 评论[添加评论] SWAI海[66.25.78.216] [9月10日] 任你甚至曾经是这些鱼在湄公河地区？这是难以置信的安全，更清洁的比你会发现美国的许多设施是肯定的！日本和欧盟的标准都高于美国，而现在许多农场和加工认证BAP（农场和打包机），ASC，全球GAP，BRC，ISO，和其他。有许多世界一流的设施，有超过任何可能在美国。 本地消费鲶鱼是生长在恶劣的环境中，因为人生活在恶劣的环境中。规模庞大的商业农场种植数万成千上万的鱼，在每个池塘。苏瓦伊鱼群，于是他们自然就聚集在密集的学校和游泳。他们是认证的饲料喂养，这是有迹可寻的。使用10％的鱼。所有垃圾分为食品级鱼油和鱼粉呈现。 湄公河是一个巨大的分水岭，流经每天的水的体积是惊人的。它是密西西比河，大浑，装有营养素从喜马拉雅山脉的柬埔寨和老挝的丛林的颜色相同。我一直在这些工厂里面的一些，他们是巨大的，考虑到美国市场的洁净度和产品质量与护理。 有一些飞的夜设施吗？是啊，他们最有可能为当地市场。你可以把这个视频，然后把它在互联网上创建一个完全错误的叙述。谁真的想看到苏瓦伊斗争的呢？最有可能的那些大型既得利益罗非鱼。苏瓦伊是一个更好的鱼比罗非鱼。罗非鱼为它工作的一件事是可以剥皮机和圆角苏瓦伊需要数千名工人用刀子。 国宝布坎南[03月30日] 恕我直言 - 其实，主要提供者进行大型保险政策，因为有人一定犯了一个错误。我听说从疾病相关到SWAI或巴沙零诉讼。但我已经听到从下面的美国种植的产品：汉堡（大肠杆菌 - 杰克在箱），新鲜菠菜（大肠杆菌），苜蓿芽（大肠杆菌），大葱（大肠杆菌）的诉讼。 我同意，只是因为供应商有一个保险政策，但这并不意味着我们可以信任他们，或者他们必须记住我们的最佳利益。然而，大部分负面新闻关于SWAI和巴沙已经从的鲶鱼大堂，鲶鱼地区的政客，和鲶鱼养殖。你认为他们是更值得信赖的食品厂商？ 我认为的底线仍然是相同的...问正确的问题，相信任何人未经核实的诚信和尽职调查（无论是SWAI鱼，扇贝，或伦敦桥！），只能吃/卖什么你自己有信心。 恕我直言，[68.237.129.33] [03月30日] “他们有一个多亿美元的保险政策，只是为了保护他们的客户从坏的食物的后果”...... 罗 - 他们有这样一个巨大的保险来保护自己，与保险的成本通常反映的风险。 ，大政策是不是对消费者的保护，假设反正也打破了一个律师。此外，我个人宁愿我的健康比金钱（如果我生存）和住善后事宜。仅仅因为一个公司进行保险并不表明我应该吃他们的产品。 更多信息：http://www.chefs-resources.com/Is-Vietnamese-Swai-and-Basa-Safe＃ixzz2g2HlsmiJ... |
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