Sinner: I have some physical or emotional problem.
Pastor: The root cause is spiritual.

Sinner: But I only wish to be healed physically or emotionally.
Pastor: That is upside down. The top down approach starts from spiritual problem.

Sinner: So what is my spiritual problem?
Pastor: You are mortally wounded in spirit and doomed to die once, if not twice.

Sinner: Hey, what is the antidote?
Pastor: Not what.

Sinner: What?
Pastor: It is not what. It is who.

Sinner: What? who?
Pastor: Who! Not what.

Sinner: So who is the antidote?
Pastor: None other than the source of life.

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