| 讨论:我生活的好好的,为什么要信耶稣? |
| 送交者: 喜来登 2005年10月10日10:57:19 于 [彩虹之约] 发送悄悄话 |
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- 不信基督教我的日子过得很好,为什么要信? 对啊,你日子过得很好,为什么要信? 1314:You are humorous But brother I need your input. From your perspective, your own conviction. Thanks. Let me first tell you a sad story to make my point clear. On Sunday night, April 14, 1912. The Atlantic ocean east of Halifax, Canada was calm, very calm under a starry sky. Over 2200 happy souls aboard an unprecedented luxurious maiden voyage rapidly approaching the brave new world were probably reminiscing about their joy ride for the last few days after they departed from Liverpool, England. They too were counting the blessings to come. At about midnight, the giant ship called Titanic smashed into an iceberg and sunk to the ocean bottom in a matter of two to three hours. Over two third (1523) of the souls perished and entombed in the icy cold water. What is really tragic is the fact that the ship had received several radio warnings about the icebergs that day. But a poor young fellow was busy sending the telegram messages for passengers to their relatives and friends already settled in the brave new world. Some messages were saying what a great time they were having aboard the ship. The young telegraher even told a bothersome crew who radioed about the iceberg danger from a neighboring ship (I think it was named California) to "shut up, don't you see how busy I am?". That caring crew was offended big time and just shut up. In fact, he not only shut up, he turned off the emergency radio receiver also and went to sleep. Ten minutes later, the tragedy struck Titanic. The ship nearby was oblivious of the happening, otherwise being a short distance away it could easily have come to the rescue and saved all people on Titanic. Now picture you are in a similar maiden voyage of life (I presume that you are a first timer to this plant Earth, not reincarnated as some may tell you). You enjoyed your time profoundly so far, so profound that you could not come up with any good reason to believe in any God. How can life be any happier than what I am having? So you figure in your mind. Then some bunch of bothersome Christians proclaim in the name of their Lord: repent, for the Kingdom of God is near, otherwise you will die in your sin. You find them very upsetting, as if they have spoiled your happy time with some unhappy thoughts. So why do you need to believe? First of all, your maiden voyage of life is heading toward eternal destruction. You must steer clear of that destructive path and take the exit to eternal life. Second, your little joy and happiness amounts to nothing compared to the insurmountable joy and happiness found in the reconciled and ever sweetened relationship with God through his appointed emissary (his Son Jesus Christ) and comforter (the holy spirit). Thus, for the sake of both eternal life then and there and a better earthly life now and here, you need to repent and believe. That is our message. Hope you do not have to tell us to shut up. We will tirelessly proclaim this messsage of salvatoin even if some people turn a deaf ear to it. Choose life over death! 1314:Thank you Xinmin brother OK, one argument is I may die unexpectively. Or actually I am heading to destruction. How do I prove there is an eternal life and it is better? 请帮我回答我生活的好好的,为什么要信耶稣。 只有新民兄回了,罗七兄还幽默我,第二次杯兄不知扯到哪去了。谢谢。God bless jael:psalm 73 4 They have no struggles; 5 They are free from the burdens common to man; 6 Therefore pride is their necklace;
10 Therefore their people turn to them 11 They say, "How can God know? 12 This is what the wicked are like— 16 When I tried to understand all this, 17 till I entered the sanctuary of God; 18 Surely you place them on slippery ground; 19 How suddenly are they destroyed, 神的救赎是免费无量的.问提是需求在不在.若人觉得自己生活无需,那传福音多办会变成大辩论.所以,当一个人觉得生活的好好的,为什么要信耶稣?答案是无解. 神愿意万人得救,但是不是人人都是得救的..... jael:你提醒了我,当一个人觉得生活的好好的,为什么要信耶稣? 只有从他再好也得死这fact入手了,但是同样的人,完全可以对死说:dont know, dont care, then it is really not our burdon anymore, we just tell and their faith is up to the lord. 1。约翰福音4:13-14 :13 耶 稣 回 答 说 , 凡 喝 这 水 的 , 还 要 再 渴 。 主说:凡喝这水的,还要再渴,这水--指这世界上的事。 2。丰盛-- 约翰福音 10:10 我 来 了 , 是 要 叫 羊 ( 或 作 人 ) 得 生 命 , 并 且 得 的 更 丰 盛 。 在主里面,经历了神给的丰盛和恩典。 3。雅各书-- 自由 感谢主,因为基督耶稣所付的代价,我们不在做罪的奴仆,得享神给的自由。活在主无比的恩典的宝座下,不在定罪的光景里面。 1)神是真的,人是被神所创造的。 主说:康健的人用不着医生,有病的人才用得着。我来本不是召义人,乃是召罪人。 一个人如果觉得自己好好的,他干吗要信耶稣呢? 所以你想传福音给这个好好的人,一定要找出他“有病”的地方,而且一定要让他明白他“有病”。找出病不容易,让他明白更不容易的。 一般的人,都有至少下面一个需要: 不过这些人不是你说“过的好好的”的人。 2。罪得赦免。有许多人的生活不幸,是由自己的罪引发的;或者他们就是活在罪中;或者他们从事罪恶的行业。这些人对“罪”的经文特别敏感。 这些可能也不是你说“过的好好的”人。 3、人生虚空。 那些追逐名利的人,特别富足的人,对虚空很有感触。或者是遭遇生老病死的人,经过人生磨难的人。他们需要永生的盼望。 你说的“过的好好的人”也许是这种。不妨从养老金啦,儿童教育啦,人老啦生病啦生活压力啦,为许多事情忧虑,等等谈起。 4、审判。有许多人是相信神灵存在的,也相信善恶报应的。这些人可以谈审判。 5、有没有神。最烦最难搞的就是这种,理性太强,完全在外围绕,没有进入前四种关于生命的事情的谈论。这种人撂给他们里程的[游子吟]可能最好,或者找机会从前四种入手。 当然祷告最重要,并且可以鼓励有需要的人尝试祷告。 耶稣在圣经里说,我来是为了使羊(人)得生命,并且得着更丰富的生命。 但是他也说:康健的人用不着医生,有病的人才用得着。我来本不是召义人,乃是召罪人。 问题是,我活得好好的,没有病也没有罪,我为什么需要耶稣基督﹖ 那么,我们就要看,我觉得自己活得好好的,这种感觉的来源何在? 也就是说,你用了一套社会衡量人的各种标准来衡量自己,自己就认为自己“活得好好的” 。 但是,我们需要进一步问的乃是,这套衡量人的价值的标准来自何处? 是来自一个不知何所从来的宇宙,在地球凑巧地产生了生命;然后经过几十亿年的“进化” ,终于产生了人。然后人就在这个社会中不断地用社会的标准衡量自己,让自己努力去符合这个社会的期望,终于出人头地,终于让自己觉得“我活得好好的”。 还是,这个世界是一个创造主创造的。人是他创造的高峰,是按照他的形象造的,要代表他来管理大地。神给了人最后的环境,也赋予人生存的目的与价值。但是,始祖落入撒旦的陷阱中,犯罪了,全人类也跟着落入罪中。 因此,上帝就展开他的救赎计划,让一些愿意悔改的人,重新回到他的怀抱。 这是两种完全不同的世界观。(当然还有其他;不多说了) 诚之:请参考一个link:神的预定与人的自由 诚之:再多一个问题: 我现在活得好好的,并不表示我以后一定活得好好的。 For your insightful sharing. Please pray for me and my family. My desire to learn is facing some roadblock, within my family. 信耶稣基督不是解决今生的问题而是永生的问题,所以今生的生活好坏与你是否决定信耶稣没有关系。 Kant:why ignore the key word this definitely doesn't exclude the hope in this life. the whole message is we will have hope in both this life and after life in Christ 今生的问题解决了,却不代表就解决了永生的问题。 所以说圣经有话“我们若靠基督只在今生有指望,就算比众人更可怜” 因为你要是只为今生信耶稣,信也不会信明白,反而会比不信的众人更可怜。 主耶稣来是为了我们解决永生的问题的,而不是今生的问题。当然了,你真的信靠主耶稣解决了永生的问题,有了那永生的美好盼望,你的今生问题自然就解决了,无论今生是富足还是贫贱,是一帆风顺还是艰难曲折,这个今生是连于永生的,远远超过了那只在今生“生活的好好”的概念。 约翰福音3:16 神爱世人,甚至将他的独生子赐给他们,叫一切信他的,不至灭亡,反得永生。 知音:今生其实很重要,因为今生的果效,会带进永生的。你前几天不是还提到“交银子”的事情吗?不解决今生的问题,主再来的时候,你怎么可能多交银子呢?“只在今生有指望”里的“只在”二字,并没有看轻今生的意思。 摇头:这就对了,这是基督徒的今生和非基督徒的今生的本质区别所在。
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