全部以網友的國家來標註。

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土耳其人

i am glad, because we will get the tech for our own projects in the future. also there will be no restrictions on the missiles/systems. One thing i was worried was if we could trustchinese systems, but i am sure The military and Defence ministry have figured that out.

我很高興，因為我們未來會在我們自己的項目里得到技術。也沒有導彈系統的條件限制。我只有一個擔心，我們是否可以相信中國的系統。但是我確信軍方和國防部已經考慮過這一問題了。

  土耳其人

FD 2000 CONGRULAT企一勻 CH丁A

FD 2000，恭喜中國。

印度人

China is the only country other then US to develop Anti satellite weapon and demonstrated the world about thier ability and advancement.

So who ever is in doubt about chinese ability should remove the glass of ignorant and search around .Chinese are the only country that will transfer the tech to turkey .

But Because Turkey is Nato Member i think they cannot go for chinese system for security concern of nato member .

中國是除了美國以外唯一一個發展反衛星武器的國家，向世界展示他們的實力。

所以任何懷疑中國能力的人都應該摘掉無知愚昧的眼鏡，好好看看。

中國是唯一一個肯向土耳其轉移技術的國家。

但是因為土耳其北約成員，因為北約成員的安全問題，我認為他們不能選擇中國的系統。

土耳其人

They already have.

The decision for procurement of the Chinese systems has been made today.

已經選好了。

今天已經做出了採購中國系統的決定。

土耳其人

What they offered was better then what our "so called" friends and allies were offering, logical result.

他們提供的比我們稱為“朋友和盟友”的人能提供的更多，合乎邏輯的結果。

土耳其人

I supported HQ-9 from the very beginning, it's a good choice, with this incoming new tech we will move faster about our own system.

從一開始我就支持HQ9，這是個好選擇，依靠引進的技術我們自己的系統將發展的更快。

巴基斯坦人

Great choice - HQ-9 with TOT will most definitely benefit Turkey in many ways.

好選擇，HQ9在很多方面都對土耳其最有利。

羅馬尼亞人

I never thought things would pan out this way...A NATO country entrusts its main AA system to China...

我從沒想過會這樣…一個北約國家會放心的將主防空系統交給中國…

土耳其人

FD-2000 Export HQ-9

7-24km against cruise missiles

7-50km against air-launched ground attack missiles

7-125km against aircrafts

7-25km against PGMs and tactical ballistic missiles

And we will get the Tech ,so we will have ability to make our own system in 15-30 Years.

Because BMC is now History we can forgot these 8x8 Version :

FD-2000 出口型的 HQ-9

7-24km反巡航導彈

7-50km反空對地導彈

7-125km反飛行器

7-25km反PGM和戰術彈道導彈

並且我們會得到技術。所以我們在15~30年內將有能力發展自己的系統。

土耳其人

I would like to see the US or NATO comment on this decision.

我想看美國和北約對這個決定的評論。

土耳其人

Yeah that's right. It's breaking news in Turkey now, US&NATO is probly shocked about the decision. I'd like to hear Chinese members opinions over that, as well as detailed specsabout the system, and the news from Chinese sources. That'd be great if I get them.

沒錯。現在在土耳其這可是爆炸性新聞。美國和北約可能對這個決定感到震驚。我想要聽聽中國的觀點，特別是關於這一系統的細節，以及中國的新聞。能看到這些就好了。

巴基斯坦人

Congrats, having multiple sources for weapons is always a +

Also shows how much Chinese weapon systems have matured over the last decade.

恭喜，武器來源多元化一直很重要（譯註：武器來源一元化才是根本，那就是自己造）。

也顯示了在過去的十年裡中國的武器已經多麼成熟。

土耳其人

I would like to see the pro's and cons in comparison to the other systems.

我想看看與其他系統比較中的支持與反對。

印度人

So turkey will be the second country after Pakistan to Acquired this system .

Bad looking HQ-9 --->

所以土耳其是巴基斯坦之後第二個獲得這一系統的國家。

HQ9不好看。

巴基斯坦人

Yet better than anything India has !

回樓上，比印度所有的都要好！

土耳其人

i hope one thing. this is not bad china production

我希望一件事，不要是差勁的中國產品。

中國人

Rest assured，China offers products of varying qualities to suit users with different budgets。

But for Turkey and for a major defence user，you can bet your house on China doing its best and being on its finest。

Apart from affordability，the real good news is that Chinese technologies and systems are fast gaining on its main competitors（US，the EU and Russia）。They are getting better and better。

樓上，放心，中國提供各種質量的產品，取決於不同的預算。

對於土耳其，你可以拿你的房子來打賭中國會做到最好。

除了錢包，好消息是中國的技術正在快速趕上競爭對手（美歐俄）。越來越好了。

印度人

A good move here. Win-win for all parties involved.

The Chinese score an export order, showing their hardware good enough to make even a NATO country acquire them

The NATO will have access to a contemporary Chinese weapon system, helping them evaluate it & develop newer counter-measures, if need be.

幹得好，雙贏的結局。

中國人贏得出口訂單，顯示了他們的硬件和北約國家提供的一樣好。

北約會觀察中國同時代的武器系統，幫助他們評估和發展對策，如果需要。

土耳其人

I wish we would had chose either Aster-30 or S-300/400

我希望我們選擇紫苑30或S300/400。

巴基斯坦人

Yes NATO also did a REVERSE ENGINEERING on S-300 (Greece has the S-300).

是的，北約也對S300做了逆向工程（希臘有S300）。

土耳其人

What I worry about is, the version that the Chinese folks will give us won't be mucheffective as they are not stupit enough to give a system like HQ-9 with ToT to a country in Turkey's position...

我擔心的是，中國人不會蠢到給我們的版本與他們使用的HQ9相同，對於土耳其這樣的國家所處的位置…（譯註：名字就不同，FD2000，HQ-9）

巴基斯坦人

What are the basis of your suspicions?

樓上，你懷疑的依據是什麼？

巴基斯坦人

Then why turkey chose HQ-9? What was not present in american or european systems that turkey chose HQ-9?

那麼為什麼土耳其選擇紅旗9呢？不是美國或歐洲系統？

加拿大人

China's offer is pretty generous - TOT and co-production.

What more can one ask for?

中國的出價更慷慨，技術轉讓和聯合生產。還能要求什麼呢？

中國人

I'm sure it's one question the Turkish government and experts asked many, many times. You'd think they must have made a sound decision technically and financially. But I think the biggest impact is on the political side. The Turkish government is telling the other big boysthat they are an independent country who is not to be forced to buy or not to buy anything from anyone. This might get them into a little bit trouble in the near short term. But it's going to be good for the country in the long run.

For China, of course we enjoy the fact that our weapons are approved by an advancedcountry in EuropeI just hope the story is true. Fingers crossed

我確定這是一個土耳其政府和專家問過很多次的問題。他們必須考慮技術和經濟作出決定。但我認為最大的影響是政治上的。土耳其政府告訴另一個大個我們是獨立的國家，想從誰哪買就從誰哪買。這可能在近期會遇到點麻煩。但長期來講對國家是有利的。

對中國來講，我們很高興歐洲的發達國家選擇我們的武器。我只希望這件事是真的，祈禱。

土耳其人

We already rely on US 100% for our airforce. Having an independant AA network was probably one of the main drivers. And I believe the capabilities of the system were secondaryto the generous tech transfer we have been offered (along with 25% cheaper price tag).

我們的空中力量100%依靠美國。擁有獨立的防空網可能是主要的驅動力。對於技術轉移來講性能是第二位的（同時便宜25%）。

巴基斯坦人

Oh this is going to peeve a few nations. Congrats!

哦，某些國家要生氣了。恭喜！

德國人

Friends? Countrys cant be friends! They can be allies/partners, but not friends.

Greece do the same.

朋友？國家之間不可能成為朋友！他們只是盟友、夥伴，但不是朋友。

希臘也是這樣做的。（譯註：指希臘的S300）

中國人

To tell you the truth i'm not comfortable with China sharing some of its most advanced SAM technology with a NATO country.

說實話，向北約國家共享最先進的技術我感到不舒服。

土耳其人

You have point but China sold his weaponry to a high-end user, Nato member country. This alone proves how much China improved in Defence Industries in the International arena.

樓上，你說的有道理，但是中國將武器賣給了高端用戶，北約國家。這已經證明了在國際上中國國防工業的進步。

加拿大人

China most likely have better tech in store.

看樣子中國還有壓箱底的更好的技術。

羅馬尼亞人

Greece do the same.

That was a complicate affair,it was win win as the S 300 didn't end up in Cyprus and as far as i know that system isn't fully integrated with NATO.I think that the chinese based turkish system will be stand alone,NATO officials repeatedly said that if they go this way itwon't be data linked with NATO.

Or,it could be a win for NATO as they get their hands on a important piece of chinese technology and that was the plan all along.

希臘也這樣做

這個事比較複雜。它是雙贏的，因為S300並沒有以塞浦路斯終結，並且就我所知系統不和北約的完全兼容。我認為基於中國的土耳其的系統也是獨立的。北約官方反覆說如果他們這樣做將不會和北約有數據連接。

或者別越野是贏家，因為他們能過得到中國技術的重要依據，並且至始至終這都在計劃內。

巴基斯坦人

China most likely have better tech in store.

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Well every country holds back a brick !

看樣子中國還有壓箱底的更好的技術。

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每個國家都會留一手！

德國人

Understand. Mayby Turkey find a way to switch both (China/Nato) systems, or, they get the technology base for its own (Nato compatible) system. Who knows? China do the same with Russian S-300!

明白！可能土耳其發現轉換中國和北約系統的方法，或者他們有自己的技術（與北約兼容），誰知道呢？中國也在S300上做同樣的事情。

土耳其人

I believe tech transfer is the key here. As long as we have access to the complete source codes including the command and control, I am confident we can find a way to interface them together.

Greece had no way of integration since Russians never shared the tech with them. They would have been required to submit NATO specs to Russians which would abviously be unacceptible whereas we can do the integration ourselves within Turkey.

我相信技術轉移是關鍵。只要我們有完整的原代碼包括指令和控制，我確信我們有辦法與其他系統連接。

希臘沒有辦法兼容是因為俄國沒有分享技術。他們已經要求俄國執行北約標準，但顯然沒有被接受。然而我們可以自己解決兼容性的問題。

孟加拉人

Communists have penetrated NATO

GCD已經滲透到北約了。

中國人

HQ-19 = THAAD & HQ-26 = SM-3

DN-2 is China's unique GEO ASAT and midcourse interception system, China will have these techs in store.

HQ-9 is a mature and reliable tech, but it is far from China's most advanced tech for now.

HQ-19=戰區高空防禦系統

HQ-26 = SM-3（標準3）

DN-2（動能2）是中國獨特的地球靜止軌道反衛星和中段攔截系統，這些技術中國會握在手裡。

HQ-9是成熟可靠的技術，遠遠不是中國目前最先進的技術。

土耳其人

Isnt the HQ-9 an upgraded variant of the S-300?

樓上，HQ9是S300的升級版本嗎？

中國人

Nope, HQ-15 is an upgraded Chinese variant of the S-300, but HQ-9 is China's home made, but it only got inspired by some features of the S-300.

Buying HQ-9 is not just buying a Chinese copy of S-300, it is buying a SAM that incorporates both advantage of the S-300 and US patriot from a Chinese perspective.

不是，HQ15是S300的升級版，但是HQ9是自家的產品，但是也受到了S300的啟發。

買HQ9並不是買了中國山寨的S300，而是買了結合S300特性和中國對美國愛國者的理解的防空導彈系統。

巴基斯坦人

If Greece can have S-300, why cant Turkey have HQ-9s ?

如果希臘有S300，土耳其為什麼不能有HQ9？

土耳其人

man...it'd be good but, i'm sure that the hellenic s-300s are not the same as Iran's and other nations s-300s.

樓上，夥計，這很好但是我確定希臘的S300與伊朗和其他國家的不同。

巴基斯坦人

Iran doesn't have the S-300s. This HQ-9 deal may well include Pakistan as a guarantor, you'll get the top notch gear.

樓上，伊朗沒有S300。這次的HQ9交易巴基斯坦可能作為擔保人。你們會獲得頂級裝備的。

土耳其人

This puts us in a very strange situation,lets see what happens next.

這使我們處於了奇怪的境地，讓我們拭目以待下一步會發生的什麼。

土耳其人

As latest reports indicated that The requirements of T-LORAMIDS tender changed and The project model is arranged as co-development, co-production for Long range air defence missiles to be selected. Such reports clearly pointed out risen Chinese chance with latest arrangements on tender.

I mean Turkey will use Chinese systems/expertise/some subsystems to develop a Turkish FD-2000 equivalent togather with China and integrate Turkey's network centric warfare environment (I think). Most probably, Exporting rights of Turkish FD-2000 will be owned We will see...

因為最近的報告顯示，T-LORAMIDS投標要求改變了，項目方式改為聯合發展，聯合生產遠程導彈系統。這個報告清楚地指出了中國的機會上升了。

我是說在土耳其使用中國的系統和經驗和子系統與中國一齊去發展土耳其的FD2000裝備，土耳其的網絡中心站環境。最可能的是，擁有土耳其FD2000的出口權，我們拭目以待。

巴基斯坦人

Excellent decision by Turkey. Now our two Nations can buy more weapons systems from China as their technology develops and with ToT we can do more Joint Ventures between our three countries.

明智的選擇，現在我們兩個國家從中國買同樣的武器系統，因為他們的技術先進和技術轉移，我們三個國家可以成立合資公司。

土耳其人

EU's Aster-30 and S-30 variant that Russia's gonna offer are more reliable and more advanced. We picked HQ-9 only because it was cheap. Probly, we had to go for the cheap one maybe because we had spented trillions for Syria...etc.

歐洲的紫苑30和S300更可靠先進。我們選擇HQ9隻是因為更便宜。可能必須買便宜的因為在敘利亞上花費萬億。

中國人

I wouldn't say that the Aster is "more advanced", simply because the Chinese missile offers superior range and ceiling as well as powerful AESA radars that are specifically designed to counter LO targets.

樓上，我不認為紫苑更先進，就憑中國的導彈有更遠的射程、射高和強大的AESA雷達，為低空目標特別設計。

土耳其人

Step by step !

-Tender opened (direct procurement)

-Desicion delayed

-NATO deployed Patriot

-USA offered 2 PAC-3 batteries along with free PAC-3 batteries already stationed in Turkey

-Aselsan/Roketsan collaboration told SSM to develop domestic Long range SAM system.

-SSM changed project model from direct order to co-development with min %50 input

-Desicion given for China, FD-2000

I strongly believe that The missiles developed will be Chinese FD-2000 derivative fully integrated in Turkey's NATO network, Otherwise, Choosing a non-NATO system wthout integration of current existing radar network is just stupidy...

逐步推進

開標（直接採購）

推遲決定

北約部署愛國者

美國提供的2套愛國者3與免費的愛國者3一齊部署在土耳其

Aselsan/Roketsan公司合作開發遠程防空導彈

改變項目模式，從直接採購到聯合研製

中國中標，FD2000

我十分的相信這個導彈是中國FD2000的衍生本版，可以與土耳其的北約網絡完全兼容。選個非北約系統，和現在的雷達網絡不兼容是很蠢的。

土耳其人

I am all for cooperation with China but i dont know what to expect from this.

We know who the King of stupid decisions is,thats why im cautious.

樓上，我們都期望與中國合作，但是我不知道從中期望些什麼。

我們知道誰是暈招之王，這就是為什麼我擔心。

巴基斯坦人

A billion cheaper could be the reason.

It was suppose to be a $4 Billion deal, but China is asking for $3 Billion

便宜了10以就是原因。

原本40億，中國出價30億。

土耳其人

I really thought the news was fraud..Am i the only one who is not happy with the decision?

我真的希望這個消息是假的。我是唯一一個不喜歡這個決定的人嗎？

中國人

From what I hear, Turkey has some demands regarding the weapons the US is not willing to meet, or at least not at the price negotiated.

We are way more flexible and far less stubborn. The HQ-9 system is pretty advanced, dealing with the middle eastern situation it is more than enough.

I also hear there will be Chinese investments going into turkey to invest in new facilities on the production and maintenance of the system.

Big step for China to have sold this system and get feed back on it. While turkey gets its defense needs for a price that won't require Turkey to sell it's house.

據我所知，美國不願以迎合土耳其的要求，至少不是在價格上。

我們的方式更加靈活。HQ9系統是非常先進的，足夠應對中東的形勢。

我也聽說中國會投資和土耳其建立新的機構去生產和維護這個系統。

對中國是一大進步，而土耳其低價滿足了國防需要，不需要土耳其賣房子。

土耳其人

I hopefull about succes of Hq-9 dealing with Scud variants But Imho opinion that there was 2 main reason for this decision

-ToT was really attractive (I do believe After this project We probable gonna start other Air defence Misiles R&D Project and This project is gonna give us realy good a head start)

-But mostly it is good business

Btw i didnt heard any Chinese investment related to this subject.Can yu give me link about it?

樓上，我希望HQ9可以應對各種飛毛腿導彈，但是我看來有兩個主要原因導致這一決定。

技術轉移很有吸引力（我確實相信此項目之後我們會開始其他的防空導彈項目研製，這個項目將會給我們一個好的開始）

但是總的來講這是比好買賣。

但是我沒聽說中國有投資，你有鏈接嗎？

中國人

turkey is greet. they already bought rocket and short rang ballistic missile from china.

and now they buy long rang AA missile...

our next step should be , sell fighter like J10B or J31 to turkey.

向土耳其致意，他們已經從中國買了火箭炮和短程彈道導彈。

現在又買了遠程防空導彈。

先一步應該是J10B或J31。

土耳其人

thanks but we are working on our own fifth generation fighter

謝謝，但是我們在做自己的5代機。（譯註：好吧~~土耳其人一頓吃幾碗飯？）

中國人

You guys think to much...the most advanced technology will never be sold

想多了吧，永遠不會賣最先進的技術。

土耳其人

More than weapon system deals. Turky is a power, is important to China.

China should strengthen the political relations with Turkey, should share more experience in weapon reserch and development with Turkey.

不僅僅是武器生意，土耳其是強大的，對中國很重要。

中國應該加強與土耳其的政治關係，應該向土耳其共享更多的武器研發經驗。

中國人

Should we be really arming a regime like Turkey that has a well known history of being a state sponsor of terror!

They support terrorists in Xinjiang and now support terrorists in Syria.

I don't think I want to be friends or do business with a regime that funds, arms and trains terrorists that do suicide bombings, use chemical weapons on innocent children and is a vassal state of the US.

I feel very uncomfortable supporting these radicals and their regime.

我們真的應該武裝像土耳其這樣的政權嗎？他們有眾所周知的支持恐怖主義的歷史！

他們支持新疆和敘利亞的恐怖分子。

我認為我不想和資助、武裝和訓練恐怖分子去做自殺襲擊，使用化學武器殺死無辜的孩子的政權交朋友。

巴基斯坦人

To my Turkish & Chinese Brethren - Solve your disagreements because this could be that start of a very beneficial partnership for the both of you !

致我的土耳其和中國弟兄們，消除你們的分歧，因為這對兩方都有利。

台灣省人

China will only sell water down version to Turkey. And Turkey might transfer the first shipment to the US for study and cancel the rest of the deal.

中國只會賣縮水版的給土耳其。土耳其第一時間就會送到美國研究，並取消其餘的交易。

巴基斯坦人

I trust the Turks not to do that & I trust the Chinese involved in the deal to have placed that in their calculus when they decided to sell it to Turkey !

我相信土耳其不會那樣做，我相信中國當決定買給土耳其時就已經考慮到了。（譯註：土耳其買HQ9就是為了在北約系統之外另建立一套系統，以防北約翻臉時自己沒有還手之力，所以這套系統土耳其也會對外保密，當然我們敢賣就不怕他泄露。）

中國人

reputation of a country is important then 3 billion。

國家信用比30億重要。

台灣省人

Since Turkey is a nato member, it would certain pass important info about this missile system to US. China is endangering its own air defense by selling this system to Turkey. I would not be surprise that China withdraw the offer and they are only in it to show its missile is competitive, not to actually sell the missile and its technology.

因為土耳其是北約國家，無疑會通報關於導彈的重要信息給美國。中國使自己的防空陷入危險。我不會驚訝中國撤回這一交易，他們只需是想證明導彈是有競爭力的，不會真的賣導彈技術。

巴基斯坦人

I think those consideration would've been debated by China ad nauseam before tabling the offer !

我認為那些擔憂在報價之前中國就已經討論過了。

台灣省人

And since they move forward, lets watch their next steps. I still would bet that they would not transfer the tech.

On the side note, I wonder why India didn't offer Brahmos since its the best missile out there. They surely can find a way to make Brahmos an anti air missile. Just like how they converted Kavari engine to a train and boat engine.

讓我們看看他們的下一步。我始終度他們不會轉移技術。

我疑惑為什麼印度不提供布拉莫斯，他是最好的導彈。

他們應該能找出方法把把拉莫斯做成防空導彈，就像他們把Kavari發動機轉成火車和船用發動機一樣。（譯註：這位灣灣真的是奇葩呀，短短3句話槽點成堆呀有沒有~~，Kavari的屍體都涼了人還在惦記着~~）

台灣省人

the biggest winner of this tender is not China, but the US. US will get the first shipment. China might as well send the first shipment directly to Los Angeles for inspection. And don't worry, Turkey will pay for it.

Don't forget, India has Brahmos. They can use that for AA as well.

最大的贏家不是中國而是美國。美國會得到第一批。中國可能直接發貨到洛杉磯，別擔心，土耳其會付錢的。

被忘了，印度有布拉莫斯。他們也可以當做防空導彈。

中國人

A good joke!

LOL.. The biggest winner is China. In order for the HQ-9 SAM to be integrate with NATO system. It needs the Chinese technician to assess all NATO system in Turkey. China can shoot down western fighter like flies in times of war.

Turkey and western countries are at bad blood. The EU always reject Turkey participation and treat thems as second class citizen. Its time for Turkish to rise and be leader in Europe with China assist.

別忘了，印度有布拉莫斯。他們也可以當做防空導彈。

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笑話不錯。

最大的贏家是中國。為了HQ9可以與北約兼容。需要中國技術人員進入所有土耳其的北約系統。中國可以在戰時大批擊落西方戰機。

土耳其和西方不和。歐盟也拒絕土耳其加入，對待他們就像二等公民。在中國的幫助下提升土耳其成為歐洲的領導者正是時候。

台灣省人

I don't think US would allow China to assess the NATO system. US would pull out of turkey before this happens. Which is probably underway now.

我認為美國不會允許中國進入北約系統。美國會在這發生前剔除土耳其。現在可能就在進行中了。

中國人

Turkey can seek closer to China. Who cares about declining US?

Do you stick with a young and strong man or a old hag?

土耳其可以尋求靠近中國。誰關心衰退的美國？

你喜歡年輕強壯的男人還是老巫婆？

中國人

Actually, Greece is a big factor in making S-300 and Patriot out of the bid race for Turkey missile system. That left Europe Aster system as the most credible contender. But I guess the system is overhyped and over priced. Turkish is not impressed. HQ-9 prove far superior and reasonable price.

事實上，希臘是一個大因素使得s300和愛國者競爭中失敗。只剩下歐洲的紫苑系統作為最可信賴的供應商。但是我猜這一系統可能吹過頭了，並且太貴。沒有打動土耳其，HQ9證明是其更加優勝惡和有合理的價格。

台灣省人

I love the way faithfulguy stings the Indians. He does it in a very subtle way.

I am not trying to sting them. I just want to acknowledge that they have the ambition to be superpower by creating the video and have all the facebook pages about becoming a superpower.

Very astute point. Greece is a historical enemy of Turkey. But so is Russia. So Turkey would not want to procure a system its enemy can study.

China is far and away from Turkey. So there would be no conflicts between the two.

我太喜歡你諷刺印度的方式了。做得相當微妙。

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我沒在諷刺他們，我只是想承認他們有通過製作視頻和非死不可的主頁來成為超級大國的野心。

非常敏銳的觀點，希臘和土耳其是世仇，俄國也是。所以土耳其不想購買敵人能了解的系統。

中國離土耳其很遠。所以他們之間沒有衝突。

荷蘭人

We shouldn't have chosen cheap Chinese junk.

我們本不應該選擇便宜的中國垃圾。

中國人

Haha.. Stupid wolf. Be cry baby. Your personal anti -China view will not derail good r/s of China and Turkey. The real junk is you!

哈哈，你個笨狼（譯註：因為那個荷蘭2B的名字是atatwolf），愛哭鬼。你個人的反華言論不會影響中土關係。真正的垃圾是你！

塞爾維亞人

Too bad that Russians not offered S400,but I understand them,Americans would immediately put a paw on best defence system in world.

So HQ9 is good alternetive way for Turkey if S400 is not in the case!But on the other hand,why Turks dont purchase American products?If I were a Turk i will always purchase NATO products(US especially)becouse US is probably most important Turkish ally,so HQ9 even S400 not that important like US allience.

Yes Turkey is crucial becouse they are most powerful country in the Muslim world.With Turkish allience,US will have 24/7 control over Balkan and Middle East.

俄國沒贏太糟了，但是我理解他們，美國總是第一時間插手世界最好的防務系統。

所以對於土耳其紅旗九是好的選擇， 如果沒有S400的話！但是為什麼土耳其不買美國貨？我國我是土耳其我會一直買北約貨，特別是美國貨，因為美國是最重要的盟友，HQ9和S400都沒有盟友重要。

是的土耳其是重要的國家，因為是穆斯林世界最強大的國家，而且土耳其的盟友美國全天候控制巴爾幹半島和中東。（譯註：要是都這個認知水平，塞爾維亞就是被賣的命。）

土耳其人

Germany and France dont want Turkey in the EU.

GB would be glad if Turkey was in,they would break the hegemony of Germany and France in the EU.

Turkey will never become a EU member.

德國和法國不想土耳其加入歐盟。

英國是樂見土耳其加入的，這可以打破德法在歐盟的領導。

土耳其永遠不會變成歐盟成員。

荷蘭人

Turkey joining EU would mean Turkey giving up part of its soveignity. Soveignity is holy for Turks. Turks are one of the few in the history who never lost it, we will never give it up and that is why we will never join EU. We are not Greece who gives up soveignity for free-ride. That whole EU-Turkey talks are just politics. Turkish people would never accept a French, German, Brit telling them what to do. Not only for integrity but also historical reasons.