關於政府大規模審查運動您需要了解的一切（雙語 bilingual）Everything You Need to Know about the Government's Mass Censorship Campaign

Everything You Need to Know about the Government's Mass Censorship Campaign

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Tucker Carlson

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Feb 16, 2024

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The national security state is the main driver of censorship and election interference in the United States. "What I'm describing is military rule," says Mike Benz. "It's the inversion of democracy."

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the defining fact of the United States is freedom of speech to the extent this country is exceptional it is

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because we have the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights, we have freedom of conscience we can say what we really

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think there is no hate speech exception to that just because you hate what somebody else thinks you cannot force

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that person to be quiet because we are citizens not slaves but that right that

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foundational right that makes this country what it is that right from which all other rights flow is going away at

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high speed in the face of censorship now modern censorship there is no resemblance

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to previous censorship regimes in previous countries and previous eras our

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censorship is affected based on fights against disinformation and Mal

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information and the key thing to know about these is they are everywhere and of

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course they have no reference at all to whether what you are saying is true or not in

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other words you can say something that is factually accurate inconsistent with your own conscience and in previous

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versions of America you had an absolute right to say those things but because someone does not like them or because

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they are inconvenient to whatever plan the people in power have they can be denounced as

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disinformation and you could be stripped of your right to express them either in person or online in fact expressing

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these things can become a criminal act and is and it is important to know that this is not just the private

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sector doing this these efforts are being directed by the US government which you pay for and at least

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theoretically own it is your government but they are stripping your rights at very high speed most people understand

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this intuitively but they don't know how it happens how does censorship happen what are the mechanics of it Mike Benz

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is we can say with some confidence the expert in the world on how this happens

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Mike Ben had the Cyber portfolio at the state department he is now executive director of foundation for freedom

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online and we are going to have a conversation with him about a very specific kind of censorship by the way we cannot recommend strongly enough if

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you want to know how this happens Mike Benz is the man to read but today we just

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want to talk about a specific kind of censorship and that censorship that emanates from the fabled military-industrial complex from us

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defense industry in the foreign policy establishment in Washington that is significant now because we are on the

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cusp of a global war and so you can expect censorship to increase dramatically and so with that here is

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Mike Benz executive director of foundation for freedom online Mike thanks so much for joining us and I and

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I just cannot overstate to our audience how exhaustive and comprehensive your knowledge is on this topic it is almost

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it is almost unbelievable um and so if you could just walk us through how the

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foreign policy establishment and defense contractors and DOD and just the

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whole cluster the constellation of Defense related publicly funded institutions stripped from us our

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freedom of speech sure you know one of the easiest ways to start the story is really with the story of

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Internet freedom and it switched from internet freedom to internet censorship because free speech on the internet was

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an instrument of statecraft almost from the outset of the privatization of the internet in

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1991 uh we quickly discovered through the uh efforts of the defense department

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the state department and our intelligence services that people were using the internet to congregate on

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blogs and forums and Free Speech were championed more than anybody by the

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Pentagon the state department and our sort of CIA cutout NGO blob architecture

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to support dissident groups around the world to help them overthrow authoritarian governments as

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they were sort of build essentially the internet free speech allowed

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kind of insta regime change operations uh to be able to facilitate the foreign

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policy establishment's State Department agenda Google is a great example of this Google began as a DARPA Grant uh by

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Larry page and Sergey Bren when they were Stanford PhDs and they got

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their funding as part of a joint CIA NSA program to chart how quote birds of a

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feather flock together online through search engine aggregation and then one year later they launched Google and then

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became a military contractor quickly thereafter they got Google Maps by purchasing a CIA satellite software

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essentially uh and the ability to track to use free speech on the internet as a

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way to circumvent State control over media over in places like Central Asia

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or all around the world was seen to be able to do what used to be

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done out of CIA station houses or out of embassies or consulates in a way that that that was totally turbocharged and

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all the internet free speech technology was initially created by our National Security State vpns virtual

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private networks to hide your IP address tour the dark web to be able to buy and trail uh sell Goods anonymously

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end-to-end encrypted chats all these things were created initially as DARPA projects or as joint CIA NSA projects to

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be able to help intelligence backed groups to overthrow governments that

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were causing a problem uh to the Clinton Administration or the Bush Administration or the Obama Administration and this plan worked

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magically from about 1991 until about 2014 uh when there began to be an about

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face on internet freedom and its utility now the high Watermark of the sort of internet free speech moment was the Arab

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Spring in 2011 2012 when you had this one by one all the adversary

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governments of the Obama Administration Egypt Tunisia all began to be toppled in Facebook revolutions and Twitter

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revolutions and you had the state department working very closely with the social media companies to be able to

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keep social media online during those periods there was a famous phone call from Google's Jared Cohen to Twitter to

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uh not do their scheduled maintenance so that uh dis so that the preferred opposition group in Iran would be able

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to use Twitter uh to uh to win that election so it was an in free speech was an instrument of statecraft from the

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National Security State to begin with all that architecture all the NOS the relationships between the tech companies

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and the National Security State had been long established for freedom in 2014 after the coup in Ukraine There Was

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An Unexpected counter coup where Crimea and the Donbass broke away and they

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broke away with essentially a military back stop that NATO was highly unprepared for at the time they had one

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last hail Mar chance which was the Crimea annexation vote on uh in in

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2014 uh and when the hearts and minds of the people of Crimea voted uh to join

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the Russian Federation that was the last straw for the concept of free speech on

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the internet in the eyes of NATO as they saw it the fundamental nature of War changed at that moment and NATO at that

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point declared something that they first called the Jasim Moff Doctrine which is named after this Russian military

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General uh who they claimed made a speech that the fundamental nature of War has changed you do not need to win

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military skirmishes to take over Central and Eastern Europe all you need to do is control the media and the social media

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ecosystem because that is what controls elections and if you simply get the right Administration into power, they

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control the military so it is infinitely cheaper than conducting a military war to Simply conduct an organized political

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uh influence operation over social media and Legacy Media an industry had been

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created that spanned the Pentagon the British Ministry of defense and Brussels into an organized political

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Warfare outfit essentially infrastructure that was created initially stationed in Germany and in

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Central and Eastern Europe to create psychological buffer zones basically to create the ability to have the

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military work with the social media companies to censor Russian propaganda

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or to censor domestic right-wing populist groups in Europe who are rising

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in political power at the time because of the migrant crisis so you had the systematic targeting by our state

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department by our IC by the Pentagon of groups like Germany's afd the

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alternative for deuts land there and for groups in Estonia Latvia Lithuania now

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when Brexit happened in 2016 it was that was that was this crisis moment where suddenly they didn't

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must worry just about Central and Eastern Europe anymore it was coming Westward this idea of Russian control

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over hearts and minds and so at that was Brexit was June 2016 the very next month

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at the war at the Warsaw conference NATO formally amended its Charter to

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expressly commit to hybrid Warfare as their as this new NATO capacity so they

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went from you know basically 70 years of Tanks to this explicit capacity

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building for censoring tweets that they were deemed to be Russian proxies

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and again, it is not just Russian propaganda this was these were now Brexit groups or groups like Mato

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Salvini in in Italy uh or in Greece or in Germany or in Spain with the Vox

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party and now at the time NATO was publishing white papers saying that the biggest threat NATO faces is not

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a military Invasion from Russia it is losing domestic elections across Europe in to all these right-wing

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populist groups who because they were mostly working-class movements were campaigning on cheap Russian energy at a

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time when the US was pressuring this energy diversification policy and so they made the argument after Brexit now

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the entire rules-based international order would collapse unless the military took control over media because Brexit

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would give rise to fit in France with Marine Le Pen to spit in Spain with the Vox party to it exit in in Italy to

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greit in Germany to greit in Greece the EU would come apart so NATO would be

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killed without a single bullet being uh being fired and then not only that now

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that NATO's gone now there is no enforcement arm for the international monetary fund the IMF or the World Bank

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so now the financial stakeholders who depend on the battering ram of the National Security State would basically

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be helpless against governments around the world so from their perspective if the military did not begin to censor the

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internet every all the democratic institutions and infrastructure that gave rise to the modern world after

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World War II would collapse so you can imagine the re later Don Trum the 2016

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election so you well you just told a remarkable story that I have never heard anybody explain as lucidly and crisply

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as you just did but did anyone at NATO or anyone at the state department pause for a moment and say wait a second, we've

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just identified our new enemy as democracy within our own countries I think that is what you are saying they

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they feared that the people the citizens of their own countries would get their way and they went to war against that

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yes, now you know there is a rich history of this dating back to the Cold War you know the cold war in Europe was

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essentially a similar a similar struggle for hearts and minds of people especially in Central and Eastern Europe

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yes, you know in these sorts of you know Soviet buffer zones and you starting in

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1948 the National Security State was really established then you know you had the 1947 act which established the

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Central Intelligence Agency you had uh you know this this new world order that

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had been created with all these international institutions and you had the 1948 UN Declaration on human rights

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which forbid the territorial acquisition by military force so you can no longer

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run a traditional military occupation government in the way that that we could

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in 1898 for example when we took the Philippines everything had to be done through a sort of political

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legitimization process whereby there is some ratification from the hearts and minds of people within the country

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now often that involves simply put puppet politicians who are groomed as leaders by our state department but the

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battle for hearts and Minds had been something that we had been giving ourselves a long moral license leash if

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you will uh since 1948 one of the Godfathers of the CIA George Kennan at

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uh 12 days after we rigged the Italian election in 1948 by stuffing ballot boxes and working with the mob, we P

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published a memo called the inauguration of organized political Warfare where he said listen uh it is a mean old world out

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there we at the CIA just rigged the Italian election we had to do it because if the Communist won maybe there would never be

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another election in Italy again so uh but it is effective guys uh we need a department of dirty tricks to be

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able to do this around the world and it is essentially a new social contract we are constructing with the American

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people because this is not the way we have conducted diplomacy before but we are now forbidden from using the war

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department in 1948 they also renamed the war department to the defense department so again as part of this this diplomatic

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Onslaught for political control rather than it looking like it is over military control but essentially what ended up

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happening there is we created this foreign domestic firewall we said that we have a department of dirty tricks to

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be able to rig elections to be able to control media to be able to meddle in the internal affairs of every other plot

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of dirt in the country but this this sort of sacred dirt on which the American Homeland sits will uh they are

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not allowed to operate there the state department the defense department the CIA are all expressly forbidden from

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operating on us soil of course this is so far from the case it is not even funny but uh but that is because of a number of

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laundering tricks that they have developed over 70 years of doing this but essentially there is there was no moral

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quandary at first with respect to the creation of the censorship industry when

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it started out in Germany and in and in Lithuania and Italy and Estonia and in

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Sweden and Finland uh there began to be a more diplomatic debate about it after

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Brexit and then uh it was it became Full Throttle when Trump was elected and what

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Little Resistance there was washed over by the rise and saturation of

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Russia gate which basically allow them to not have to deal with the moral

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ambiguities of censoring your own people because if Trump was a Russian asset you

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no longer really had a traditional Free Speech issue it was a national security issue it was only after Russia gate died

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died in uh in July 2019 when Robert Mueller basically choked on the stand

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for 3 hours and revealed he had absolutely nothing after two and a half years of investigation that the foreign

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to domestic Switcheroo took place where they took all this censorship architecture spanning DHS the FBI the

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CIA the DOD the DOJ and then the thousands of governments funded NGO and

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private sector mercenary firms were all basically transited from a foreign FOC

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from a foreign predicate a Russian disinformation predicate to a democracy predicate by saying that disinformation

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is not just a threat when it comes from the Russians It is an intrinsic threat to democracy itself and so by

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that they were able to launder the entire democracy promotion regime change toolkit uh just in time for the 2020

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election it I mean it is almost beyond belief that this has happened I mean my own father worked for the US

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government in this business in the information War against the Soviet Union and you know was a big part of that and

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the idea that any of those tools would be turned against American citizens by the US

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government was I think I want to think was Unthinkable and speak

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1988 and you are saying that it is there really has not been anyone who is raised objections and it is just it is absolutely

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turned inward to manipulate and rig our own elections as we would in say ltia yeah well as soon as the Democracy

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predicate was established you had this professional class of professional regime change artists and operatives

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that is the same people who argued that you know we need to bring democracy to Yugoslavia to get and that is the

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predicate for getting rid of you know Moscovici or any other country around the world where we basically overthrow

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governments to preserve democracy well if the Democracy threat is home grown now then that

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becomes uh you know then then suddenly these people all have new jobs moving on

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the on the US side and I can go through a million examples of that but one thing on what you just mentioned

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which is that you know from their perspective they

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just were not ready for the internet 2016 was really the first time that social

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media had reached such maturity that it began to Eclipse Legacy Media I mean

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this was a long time coming I think folks saw this building from 2006

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through 2006 you know uh internet 1.0 did not even have social media from 1991 to 2004

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there was no social media at all 204 Facebook came out 2005 Twitter 2006

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YouTube 2007 the smartphone and so and in that initial period of social media

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nobody was getting subscribers ships at the level where they competed with Legacy news media but over the

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course of being you know so initially even these dissident voices within the US

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uh even though they may have been loud uh in moments they never reached 30 million followers they never

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reached you know um a billion Impressions a year type thing as an uncensored mature ecosystem allowed

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citizen journalists and independent voices to be able to out compete Legacy

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news media this induced a massive crisis both in our military and in our state

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department and intelligence Services I give a great example of this in 2019 at meeting of the German

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Marshall fund which is you know an institution that goes back to the US uh

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basically, um I do not want to say bribe but the essentially the soft power economic soft power projection in Europe

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as part of the Reconstruction of European governments after World War II to be able to essentially pay them uh

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with Marshal fund dollars and then in return they basically were under our Thumb in terms of how they Recon

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constructed uh but the German Marshall fund held a meeting in 2019 they held a million of these frankly but

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where they were a four-star general uh got up on the panel and said that uh

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that the what happens he posed the question what happens to the to the US

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military what happens to the National Security State when the New York Times is reduced to a medium-sized Facebook

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page and he posed this thought experiment as an example of we have had

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these Gatekeepers we have had these bumper cars on Democracy in the form of a of a

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century old relationship with Legacy Media institutions I mean our mainstream media is not in any shape and

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form even from its outset independent from the National Security State from the state department from the war

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department uh you know you had the initial uh all the initial uh Broadcast News companies NBC ABC and CBS

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were all created by office of War information veterans from the from the war Department's effort in World War II

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you had the you had these operation Mockingbird relationships from the 1950s through the 1970s those continued it

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using the National Endowment for democracy and the privatization of intelligence capacities

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in the 1980s under Reagan uh there is all sorts of CIA read reading room memos you

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can read even on cia.gov about those continued media relations throughout the 1990s

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and so, you always had this backdoor relationship between the Washington Post the New York Times and all the major

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broadcast media corporations by the way you know Rupert Murdoch and fox are part of this as well you know Rupert

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Murdoch was part of the National Endowment for democracy Coalition in 1983 when it was formed as

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a way to Pro to do CIA operations in an aboveboard way after the Democrats were

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so ticked off at the CIA for manipulating student movements in the 1970s but essentially there was no CIA

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intermediary to random citizen journalist accounts there was no Pentagon back stop you could not get a

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story killed you could not have these favors for favors relationship you could not promise access to some random

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person with 700,000 followers who has got an opinion on Syrian gas and so this

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induced and this was not a problem for the initial period of social media from 2006 to 2014 because there were never

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dissonant groups that were big enough to be able to have a mature enough ecosystem on their own and all the

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victories on social media had gone uh in the way of the where the money was which was from the state department and

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the defense department and the intelligence services but then as that maturity happened you now had this this

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situation after the 2016 election where they said OKAY now the entire international order might come undone 70

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years of unified foreign policy from Truman until Trump are now about to be broken and we need the same analog

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Control Systems we had to be able to put bumper cars on bad stories or bad political movements through Legacy Media

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relationships and contacts we now need to establish and consolidate within the social media companies and the initial

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predicate for that was Russia gate but then after Russia gate died and they used a simple democracy promotion

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predicate then it gave rise to this multi-billion-dollar censorship industry that joins together the

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military-industrial complex the government the private sector the Civil Society organizations and then this vast

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cobweb of media allies and professional fact cheer groups that that serve as this sort of Sentinel class

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that surveys every word on the internet so can you give us and thank

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you again for this almost unbelievable explanation of why this is happening can you give us an example of how it happens

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how just and just pick one among I know countless examples of how the National Security State lies to the population

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censors the truth um in real life yeah so you know we have this state

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department outfit called the global engagement Center which was created by a guy named Rick Spangle who described

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himself as Obama's propagandist and chief he was the undersecretary for public affairs which is essentially the

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Rel which is the liaison office role between the state department and the

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mainstream media so this is basically the exact Nexus where government talking points about war or about diplomacy or

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statecraft get synchronized with mainstream media may I add something to that is someone I know Rick Spangle he

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was at one point a journalist um and Rick Spangle has made public arguments against the First Amendment and against

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free speech and some on it and he published an opad in 2019 he wrote a whole book on it and he you know he made

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the argument that that we just you know went over here that essentially uh the fir the Constitution

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was not prepared for the internet and uh we need to get rid of the First Amendment uh accordingly and you know he

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described himself as a free speech absolutist when he was the managing editor of Time Magazine and even when he

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was in the state department under Obama uh he started something called the global engagement Center which was the

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first government censorship uh operation within the federal government but it was

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fore in facing so it was okay now at the time they used the uh the Homegrown Isis

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predicate threat for this and so it was very hard to argue against the idea of the state department uh having this

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formal coordination partnership with every major Tech platform uh in the US

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because the you know at the time there were these Isis attacks that were and we were told that Isis was recruiting on

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Twitter and Facebook and so the global engagement Center was established essentially to be a state department um

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entanglement with the social media companies to basically put bumper cars on their ability to uh to platform

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accounts and to and one of the things they did is they created a new

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technology which is it's called natural language processing it is an artificial

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intelligence machine learning uh ability to create meaning out of words in order

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to map everything that everyone says on the internet and create this vast topography of how communities

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are organized online who the major influences are what they are talking about what narratives are emerging or

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trending and to be able to create this sort of network graph uh to know who to Target and uh and how

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information moves through an ecosystem and so they began plotting the language you the prefixes the suffixes the

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popular terms the slogans that Isis uh folks were talking about on Twitter when

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when Trump won the election in 2016 um uh everyone who worked at the state

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department uh was expecting these promotions to the White House National Security Council under Hillary

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Clinton who I should remind uh viewers you know was also Secretary of State under Obama ran the state

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department but these folks were all expecting promotions on November 18th November 8th 2016 and were

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unceremoniously uh put out of jobs by a guy who was a 20 to1 Underdog according to the New York Times the day of the

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election and when that happened these State Department folks took their special set of skills coercing

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governments uh to C to for sanctions the state department led the uh the effort

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to sanction Russia over the Crimea annexation in 2014 these State

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Department diplomats did an international road show to pressure European governments to pass censorship

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laws to censor the right-wing populist groups in Europe and as a boomerang

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impact to censor populist groups who were Affiliated in the US so you had folks who went

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from the state department directly for example to the Atlantic Council which was which was this major facilitator uh

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between the government uh between government-to-government censorship the Atlantic council is a group that is one

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of Biden's biggest political backers, they uh they build themselves as NATO's think tank so they represent the

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political census of NATO and in many respects when NATO has uh Civil

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Society actions that they want to be coordinated to synchronize with military action a region the Atlantic

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Council essentially is deployed to consensus build and make that political action happen within a region of

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interest to NATO now the Atlantic Council has seven CIA directors on its board a lot of people do not even know

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that seven CIA directors are still alive Lo alone all concentrated on the board of a single organization that's

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kind of the heavyweight in the censorship industry they get annual funding from the Department of Defense the state department and CIA cutouts

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like the National Endowment for democracy the Atlanta Council in January 2017 moved immediately to pressure

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European governments to pass censorship laws to create a transatlantic flank ATT tank on Free Speech in exactly the way

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that Rick Spangle essentially called for to have us mimic European censorship laws one of the ways they did this was

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by getting Germany to pass something called Nets DG in August 2017 which was which was essentially kicked off

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the era of uh of automated censorship in the US what net GG required was unless

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social media platforms wanted to pay a $54 million fine for each instance of speech each post left up on their

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platform for more than 48 hours that had been identified as hate speech um they would they would be fined basically into

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bankruptcy when you aggregate 54 million over tens of thousands of posts per day and the safe haven around that was

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if they deployed artificial intelligence-based censorship Technologies which had been again

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created by DARPA to take on Isis to be able to scan and ban speech

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automatically and this was this gave you know I call these weapons of mass deletion these are essentially the

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ability to censor tens of millions of posts with just a few lines of code and

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the way this is done is by aggregating basically the field of

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censorship science fuses together two disparate groups of studs if you will there is the sort of political and social

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scientists who are the sort of thought leaders of what should be censored and then there are the sort of quants if you

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will these be the programmers the computational data scientists computational Linguistics every

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University there is over 60 universities now who get federal government grants to do this censorship uh the censorship

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work and the censorship preparation work where what they do is they create these code books of the language that people use the same way they did for Isis they

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did this for example with covid they created these covid lexicons of what dissident groups were saying about

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mandates about masks about vaccines about high-profile individuals like Tony Fauci or um or

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uh Peter Dashiki or any of these others protected VIP individuals whose reputations had to be protected online

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and they created these code books they broke things down into narratives the Atlanta Council for example was a part

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of this this government funded Consortium something called the virality project which mapped 66 different

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narratives that dissidents were talking about around covid everything from Co Origins to vaccine efficacy and then

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they broke the down these 66 claims into all the different factual sub claims and then they plugged these into these

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essentially machine learning models to be able to have a constant World heat map of what everybody was saying about

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covid and whenever something started Trend that was bad for what the Pentagon wanted or was bad for what Tony Fauci

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wanted they were able to take down tens of millions of posts they did this in the 2020 election with mail and ballots

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it was the same ask I am sorry I just got to have there is so much here and it is so shocking so you are saying the

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Pentagon our Pentagon the US Department of Defense censored Americans during the

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2020 election cycle yes, they did this they oh they did this through the so

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there are the two most censored events in human history I would argue to date are the 2020 election and the covid-19

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pandemic and I'll explain you know how I aired there so the 2020

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election was determined by mail and ballots and I am not weighing into the substance of whether mail and ballots

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were or were not a legitimate or safe and reliable form of voting that's a completely independent topic from my

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perspective than the censorship issue one but the censorship of mail and ballots is really one of the most

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extraordinary stories in our American history I would argue what happened was

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is you had this plot within the Department of Homeland Security Now this gets back to what we were talking about

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with the state Department's Global engagement Center, you had this group within the Atlanta Council and the foreign policy establishment which began

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arguing in 2017 for the need for a permanent domestic censorship government office to serve as a quarterback for

32:23

what they called a whole of society counter misinformation counter disinformation Alliance that just means

32:29

censorship the counter Mis or disinformation but the whole their whole society model explicitly proposed that that we need

32:36

every single asset within Society to be mobilized in a whole of society effort

32:42

to stop misinformation online it was that much of an existential threat to democracy and so it but they

32:49

fixated in 2017 that it had to be centered within the government because only the government would have the clout

32:55

and the coercive threat powers and the and the perceived authority to be able to tell the social media companies what

33:02

to do to be able to summon an NG a government funded NGO swarm to create that media surround sound to be able to

33:09

arm a tin you knows an AstroTurf army of fact Checkers and to be able to liaison and connect all these different

33:16

censorship industry actors into a cohesive unified hole and the Atlanta Council initially proposed with this

33:22

blueprint called forward defense it is not offense it is forward defense guys they Al proposed that running this out

33:28

of the state Department's Global engagement Center because they had so many assets there who were so effective at censorship under Rick Spangle Steed

33:36

under the Obama Administration but they said oh we are not going be able to get away with that because we do not really have a national security

33:41

predicate and it is supposed to be foreign facing we cannot really use that hook unless we have a sort of National Security one then they contemplated

33:48

parking at the CIA and they said Well there is two reasons we cannot do that CIA is foreign facing we

33:54

cannot really establish a Counter Intelligence threat to bring it home domestically also we are going to need essentially tens of thousands of people

33:59

involved in this operation spanning this whole society model you cannot really run a clandestine operation that way so they

34:06

said OKAY well what about the FBI they said Well the FBI would be great it is domestic but the problem is the FBI is

34:11

supposed to be the intelligence arm of the justice department and we and what we are dealing with here are not acts of

34:18

lawbreaking it is basically support for Trump or if you know if a leftwing populist had risen to power Like Bernie

34:24

Sanders or Jeremy Corbin I have no doubt they would have done in in the UK they would have done the same thing to him there they targeted Jerry Jeremy Corbin

34:30

and other leftwing populist Natok skeptical groups in Europe but in the US, it was it was all Trump and so

34:37

essentially what they said is well the only other domestic intelligence Equity we have in the US besides the FBI is the

34:43

DHS so we are going to essentially take the CIA’s power to rig and bribe foreign

34:49

media organizations which is a power they have had since the day they were born in 1947 and we are going to combine that

34:56

with the power with the domestic jurisdiction of the FBI by putting it at DHS so DHS was basically deputized it

35:05

was empowered through this obscure little cyber security uh agency to have the combined powers that the CIA has

35:12

abroad with the jurisdiction of the FBI at home and the way they did this how did a cyber an obscure little cyber

35:18

security uh agency get this power was they did a funny little series of

35:24

switchers so this little thing called sisa they did not call the disinformation governance board they did not call it the

35:30

censorship agency they gave it an obscure little name that no one would notice called the cyber security and

35:35

infrastructure Security Agency who his founder said we just security we care about security so much it is in our name

35:41

twice you know everybody sort of closed their eyes and pretended you know that is what it was but it was created by

35:46

AC of Congress in 2018 because of the perceived threat that Russia had hacked

35:52

the 2016 election had physically hacked it and so we had need we needed the cyber security power uh to be able to

36:00

be able to deal with that and essentially on the heels of a CIA memo on January 6 2017 and a same day DHS

36:07

executive order on January 6 2017 arguing that Russia had interfered in the 2016 election and a DHS mandate

36:14

saying that elections are now critical infrastructure you had this new power within DHS to say that cyber security

36:21

attacks on elections are now our purview and then they did two cute things

36:27

one they said Cy they said Mis dis and Mal information online are a form of

36:35

cyber security attack they are a Cyber-attack because they are happening online

36:40

and they said Well actually Russian disinformation is we are protecting democracy in elections we

36:47

do not need a Russian predicate after Russia gate died so just like that you had this cyber security agency be able

36:54

to legally make the argument that you your tweets about mail and ballots if you undermine public faith and

37:00

confidence in them as a legitimate form of voting was now you were now conducting a Cyber-attack on us critical

37:07

infrastructure by articulating misinformation on Twitter and just like

37:12

that now what they did then is they in other words complaining about election fraud

37:18

is the same as taking down our power grid yes you could literally be on your toilet seat at 9:30 on a Thursday

37:26

night and tweet I think that mail and ballots are illegitimate and you were

37:31

essentially then caught up in the crosshairs of the Department of Homeland Security classifying you as conducting a

37:38

Cyber-attack on us critical infrastructure because you were doing misinformation online in the Cyber realm

37:45

and misinformation is a Cyber-attack on Democracy when it undermines public faith and confidence in our

37:53

Democratic elections and our Democratic institutions they would end up going far beyond that they would define democratic institutions

38:00

uh as being another thing that was a cyber security attack to uh to undermine and lo and behold the mainstream media

38:06

is considered a democratic institution that would come later what ended up happening was in the advance of the 2020

38:12

election and starting in April of 2020 although this goes back before you had this essentially never Trump neocon

38:19

Republican DHS working with essentially NATO on the National Security side and

38:26

they and essentially the DNC if you will uh to use DHS as the launching point

38:32

for a government coordinated Mass censorship campaign spanning every

38:38

single social media platform on Earth to pre- censor the ability to

38:44

dispute the legitimacy of mail and ballots and here is how they did this they aggregated four different

38:50

institutions uh Stanford University the University of Washington a company called graa and the Atlanta Council now

38:58

all four of these institutions the centers within them were essentially Pentagon cutouts you had uh

39:05

you had at the Stanford AET Observatory it was run by Michael McFall if you know Michael McFall, he was the US

39:12

ambassador to Russia under the uh under the um Obama administration and he

39:18

personally authored A 7ep playbook for how to successfully orchestrate a color

39:23

Revolution that is and part of that involved have maintaining total control over media and social media juicing up

39:30

the Civil Society outfits uh calling elections IL legitimate in order mind

39:36

you all these people were professional Russia Gators and professional election delegitimizes in 2016 and then I will get to that in a sec

39:43

so, Stanford University of the nominally the Stanford Aon Observatory under Michael M McFall was run by Alex

39:50

Stamos who was formerly a Facebook executive who coordinated with odni and the

39:56

with respect to uh Russia gate you know taking down Russian propaganda at

40:02

Facebook so this is another uh liaison essentially to the National Security State and under Alex Damos at Sanford

40:09

Observatory was Renee Desta who started her career in the CIA and wrote the Senate intelligence committee report on

40:16

Russian disinformation and there are a lot more there that I will leave I will get to another time but the next

40:21

institution was the University of Washington which is essentially the Bill Gates University in Seattle who is headed

40:28

by Kate Starbow who uh is basically three generations of military brass who

40:33

got our PhD in crisis informatics essentially doing U you know social media surveillance for the Pentagon and

40:40

getting you know DARPA funding and and working essentially with the National Security State then repurposed

40:46

to take on mail and ballots the third firm Graphica got $7 million in Pentagon grants uh and got their start as

40:54

part of the pentagon's manure initiative the manure initiative is the psychological warfare research center of

41:00

the Pentagon they this group was doing social media spying and

41:06

narrative mapping for the Pentagon until the 2016 election happened and then were repurposed into a partnership with

41:13

the Department of Homeland Security to censor you know 22 million Trump tweets uh pro-Trump tweets about mail and

41:19

ballots and then the fourth institution as I mentioned was the Atlantic Council who has got seven CIA directors on the board so one after another

41:26

it is exactly what Ben Rhys described during the Obama era as the blob the

41:31

foreign policy establishment it is e the it is the defense department the state department or the CIA every single

41:38

time and of course this was because they were they were threatened by Trump's foreign policy and so while much

41:45

of the censorship looks like it is coming domestically it is by our foreign facing Department of dirty

41:50

tricks color Revolution blob who are professional government Toppers who were then basically descended on the 2020

41:57

election now they did this the they explicitly said the head of this election Integrity partnership on tape

42:04

and my Foundation clipped them and it's been played before Congress and it's in you know a part of the Missouri

42:10

V Biden lawsuit now but they explicitly said on tape that they were set up to do

42:16

what the government was banned from doing itself and then they articulated a multi-step framework to coers

42:23

all the tech companies to take censorship AC they said on tape the tech companies would not have done but for

42:29

their pressure which involved using threats of government Force because they were the deputized arm of the government

42:35

they had a formal partnership with the DHS they were able to use DHS 's proprietary domestic disinformation

42:41

switchboard to immediately talk to top brass at all the tech companies for takedowns and they bragged on tape about

42:47

how they got the tech companies to all systematically adopt a new terms of service speech violation ban called

42:54

delegitimization which meant any tweet any YouTube video any Facebook post any

42:59

Tik Tok video any Discord posts any twitch video anything on the internet

43:05

that that uh undermined public faith and confidence in the use of mail and ballots or early voting drop boxes or

43:14

or ballot tabulation issues on Election Day was a prim of fascia uh terms of

43:19

service violation policy under this new delegitimization policy that they only adopted because of pass through govern

43:26

pressure from the election Integrity partnership which they bragged about on tape including the grid that they used

43:31

to do this and simultaneously invoking threats of government breaking them up or government stopping doing

43:37

favors for the tech companies unless they did this as well as inducing crisis PR by working with their media allies

43:43

and they said the government DHS could not do that themselves and so they set up this this basically constellation of State

43:50

Department Pentagon uh and IC networks to run this preens censorship

43:56

Campaign which by their own math had 22 million tweets on Twitter alone and REM you that they just on 15 platforms this

44:03

are hundreds of millions of posts which were all scanned and banned or throttled

44:08

so that they could not be Amplified or they existed in a sort of limited State Purgatory or had these frictions fixed

44:14

to them in the form of factchecking labels where you could not actually click through the thing or you had to it was it was an inconvenience to be able to

44:20

share it now they did this s months before the election because at the time they were worried about the

44:26

perceived legitimacy of a Biden victory in the case of a so-called red Mirage

44:31

blue shift event they knew the only way that Biden would be able to was would win mathematically uh was through

44:38

the disproportionate Democrat use of mail and ballots they knew there would be a crisis because it was going to look

44:43

extremely weird if Trump looked like he won by seven states in no you know uh

44:49

and then 3 days later it comes out the election switch I mean that that would put the election crisis of

44:55

the Bush Gore election uh on a level of steroids that the National Security State said Well the public will not

45:02

be prepared for so what we need to do is we need to in advance we need to pre-censorship

45:25

do look very bad uh you know and especially when you combine this with the fact that this is

45:31

right on the heels of the impeachment the Pentagon LED CIA LED impeachment you

45:38

know it was uh Eric Sarala from the CIA and it was the vermin from the Pentagon

45:43

uh who led the impeachment of trump in late 2019 over uh you know an alleged

45:49

phone call around withholding Ukraine Aid this same network which came

45:54

straight out of the Pentagon uh hybrid Warfare network uh military censorship

46:00

Network created after the first you know Ukraine crisis in 2014 were the lead

46:06

architects of the uh Ukraine impeachment in 2019 and then essentially came back on steroids as part of the 2020 election

46:14

censorship operation but you know from their perspective I mean it certainly

46:19

looks like the perfect crime these were the people DHS at the time had actually

46:24

federalized much of the national election INF uh um uh Administration

46:29

through this January 6 2017 uh executive order from outgoing

46:35

Obama um DHS head Jed Johnson uh which essentially wrapped all 50 states up

46:41

into a formal DHS partnership so DHS was simultaneously in charge of the administration of the election in many

46:46

respects and the censorship of anyone who challenged the administration of the election uh this

46:53

is like you know putting essentially the defendant uh of a trial uh as the judge

46:59

and jury of the trial it was but you are not describing democracy I mean you are describing a country in which democracy

47:05

is impossible what I am essentially describing is military rule I mean this is I mean what has happened with the rise

47:11

of the censorship industry is a total inversion of the idea of democracy itself you know de democracy sort of

47:18

draws its legitimacy from the idea that it is uh ruled by consent of the people

47:25

of the people being ruled that is it is not really being ruled by an Overlord because the government is just

47:30

our will expressed by our consent with who we vote for um the whole push after

47:36

the 2016 election and after Brexit and after a couple of other you know social media run elections that went the wrong

47:43

way from what the state department wanted like the 2016 Philippines election uh was to completely invert

47:50

everything that we described as being the underpinnings of a Democratic Society in order deal with a threat of

47:56

free speech on the internet and what they essentially said is we need to redefine democracy from being about the

48:02

will of the voters to being about the sanctity of democratic institutions and who are the in the Democratic

48:08

institutions oh it is us you know it's the military it's NATO it's the IMF and the World Bank it's uh it's

48:15

the mainstream media uh who it is the Nos and oh the of course these NOS are

48:21

largely State Department funded or IC funded it is essentially all the Elite

48:27

establishments uh that were under threat from domestic the rise of domestic populism that declared their own

48:34

consensus to be the new definition of democracy because if you define democracy as being the strength of

48:39

democratic institutions rather than a focus on the will of the voters then what you are left with is essentially

48:47

democracy is just the consensus Building architecture within the within the Democratic institutions themselves and

48:53

from their perspective that takes a lot of work I mean I mean the amount of work these people do I mean for example we

49:00

mentioned the Atlantic Council which is one of these big coordinating mechanisms for the oil and gas industry in a region

49:07

for the for the finance and the JP Morgans and the black rocks in a region for the NOS in the region for the

49:13

media in the region all these need to reach a consensus and that process takes a lot of time it takes a lot of work and

49:19

a lot of negotiation from their perspective that's democracy is getting the NOS to agree with black

49:25

to agree with the with the Wall Street Journal you know to agree with uh you the community and activist

49:32

groups who are on boarded with respect to a particular initiative that is the difficult vote building process from

49:38

their perspective if at the end of the day a bunch of you know populist groups decide that they like a truck driver

49:45

who is popular on Tik Tok more than the you know carefully constructed consensus

49:50

of the NATO military brass well then from their perspective you know that is now an attack on democracy and this is

49:58

what this whole branding effort was and of course democracy again has that magic regime change predicate where democracy

50:05

is is our magic watch word to be able to overthrow governments from the ground up in a sort of color Revolution style

50:12

whole of society effort to topple a democratically elected government from the inside for example as we did in

50:19

Ukraine Victor Yanukovych was democratically elected by the Ukrainian people like him or hate him how I'm

50:25

not even issuing an opinion there but the fact is we color Revolution him out of office

50:30

we January 6th him out of office to be frank I mean with respect to the you had you know a state

50:36

department funded right sector Thugs and you know 5-billion-dollar worth of Civil

50:41

Society money pumped into this to overthrow a democratically elected government in the name of democracy and

50:46

they took that special set of skills home and now it is here perhaps

50:53

potentially to stay and this is fundamentally changed the nature of American

50:58

governance because of the threat of you know One Small Voice becoming popular on social media May me ask a question so

51:05

into that that group of Institutions that you say Now define democracy the

51:12

NGS um foreign policy establishment Etc. you included the mainstream media

51:18

now in 20121 the NSA broke into my private text apps and read them and then

51:26

leak them to the New York Times against me that just happened again to me last week um and I am wondering how common

51:34

that is for the Intel agencies to work with so-called mainstream media like the

51:39

New York Times to hurt their opponents well that is the function of these

51:46

interstitial government-funded non-governmental organizations and think tanks like for example we mentioned the

51:52

Atlantic Council which is you know NATO's think tank but other groups like the Aspen Institute which draws the line

51:57

share of its funding from the state department and other government agencies you know the Aspen Institute was busted

52:02

doing this same thing with the hunter Biden laptop censorship you know you had this strange situation where the FBI had

52:09

Advanced knowledge of the pending publication of the hunter Biden laptop story and then magically the Aspen

52:16

Institute which is run by essentially former CIA former NSA former FBI and

52:23

then a bunch of sorts of Civil Society Organizations uh all hold a mass

52:29

uh stakeholder simulation censorship simulation a 3-day uh conference you

52:34

know this came out and Yol Roth was there this was a big part of the Twitter file leaks and it has been mentioned in

52:40

multiple Congressional investigations but somehow the Aspen Institute uh which

52:45

is basically an addendum of the National Security State uh got the exact same

52:52

information that the National Security State spied on journalists and political

52:58

figures to obtain and not only leaked it but then basically did a joint coordinated censorship simulator in SE

53:05

in September two months before the election in order just like with the censorship of mail and ballots to be in

53:12

ready position to pre- censor anyone online amplifying a news story that had

53:18

not even broken yet the Aspen Institute so I mean which is by the way I am spent

53:23

my life in Washington it is kind of a I mean Walter Isaacson former Le of Time Magazine ran it for former president of

53:30

CNN um I had no idea it was part of the National Security State I had no idea its funding came from the US government

53:36

you are this is the first time I have ever heard that but given assuming what you are saying is true it is a little

53:41

weird that Walter Isaacson left asps to write a biography of Elon Musk

53:47

strange or no yeah, I am you know I do not know I I've I have not read that book I

53:54

from what I have heard from people it is a relatively fair treatment I you just total speculation but I suspect

54:01

that Walter Isaacson has struggled with this issue and may not even firmly fall in one place uh in the sense

54:08

that you know Walter Eisen son did a series of interviews of Rick Spangle uh

54:13

with the Atlantic Council and in in other settings uh where he interviewed Rick Spangle specifically on

54:19

the issue of uh of you know the need to get rid of the First Amendment and

54:25

the threat that free speech on social media poses to democracy now at the time I was very concerned this was between

54:31

2017 and 2019 when he did these Rick Spangle interviews, I was very concerned because Isaacson expressed what seemed

54:38

to me to be a highly sympathetic uh view about the Rick Spangle you know

54:43

perspective on killing the First Amendment now he did not formally endorse that position but it left me very

54:49

skittish about Isaac and but what I should say is at the time I do not think

54:54

very many people in fact I know virtually nobody in the country um uh

55:00

had any idea how deep the rabbit hole went when it came to the construction of the censorship industry and the

55:07

the How deep the tentacles had grown within the military and the National Security State to buoy and

55:13

consolidate it much of that frankly did not even come to public light until uh

55:18

until even last year you frankly some of that was galvanized by Elon Musk's acquisition in the Twitter files and the

55:24

Republican turnover in the house that allowed these multiple investigations uh the lawsuits like Missouri V Biden the

55:30

discovery process there uh and you know multiple other things like the disinformation governance board who by

55:36

the way the interim head of that you the head of that Nina Janowitz got her start uh in the censorship industry from

55:42

this exact same um clandestine intelligence Community censorship Network created after the 2014 Crimea

55:50

situation Nina Janowitz when her name came up in 2022 as part of 

55:55

disinformation governance board I almost fell out of my chair because I had been tracking Nina's Network for almost 5

56:02

years at that point when her when her name came up as part of the UK inner cluster cell of a busted clandestine

56:10

operation to sensor the internet called the Integrity initiative which was created by the UK foreign office and was

56:17

backed by NATO's political Affairs uh unit to carry out this

56:23

thing that we talked about at the beginning of this of this dialogue the NATO uh sort of psychological

56:29

inoculation uh and uh the ability to kill so-called Russian propaganda or

56:35

Rising political groups who wanted uh to maintain energy relations with Russia at

56:40

a time when the US was trying to kill the Nord stream and other and other uh pipeline relations well, they did that

56:46

Marine Leen Andina Janet was a part of this this outfit and then who is the who is the

56:52

head of it after Nina Janowitz went down it was Michael cherto and Michael cherto was running the Aspen Institute cyber group and then this and

57:00

the Aspen Institute then goes on to be the censorship Simulator for the hunter Biden laptop story and then two years

57:05

later Jer off is then the head of the disinformation governance board after Nina is forced to step down yeah, a close

57:11

friends of course Michael cherto was the chairman at Bay sorry Sor of course Michael chof was the chairman of the

57:18

yeah, the largest military contractor in Europe uh Bae uh military

57:24

so you've blown my mind so many times in this conversation that I'm going to need a nap directly after it's done so

57:31

I have just got two more two more questions for you one short one a little longer short one is for people who've

57:36

made it this far an hour in and want to know more about this topic and by the way I hope you will come back whenever

57:42

you have the time um to explore different threads of the story but for people who want to do research on them

57:48

own how can your research on this um be found on the internet sure so our

57:55

foundation is foundation for freedom online.com uh we publish all manner

58:00

of reports on every aspect of the censorship industry from what we talked about with the role of the

58:06

military-industrial complex in the National Security State to what the universities are doing to you know I

58:12

sometimes refer to as digital MK Ultra there is just the field of basically the science of censorship and how and

58:18

the funding of these psychological manipulation methods to nudge people into different belief systems as

58:24

they did with covid as they did with energy and every sensitive policy issue is what they essentially had an

58:31

ambition for but so my foundation for Freedom online.com website is one way the other way is just on X uh my

58:38

handle is Mike Ben cyber I am very active there and uh publish a lot of long form

58:43

video and written content on all this I think it is one of the most important issues in the world today so it

58:48

certainly, is and so that leads directly and seamlessly to my final question um

58:54

which is about X and I am not just saying this because I post content there but I think objectively it is the last big

59:00

platform that's free or sort of free or freer you post there too um but you

59:06

know we are at the very beginning of an election year with a couple of different Wars unfolding

59:12

simultaneously uh in in 2024 so do you expect that that PL platform can stay

59:18

free for the duration of this year it is under an extraordinary an extraordinary amount of pressure and that pressure is

59:24

going to continue to mount as the election approaches um Elon Musk is a

59:29

unique individual and he has a unique buffer perhaps when it comes to

59:34

the National Security State because the National Security State is quite reliant on um on Elon Musk

59:42

properties whether that's for the uh the electrical you know the sort of the Green Revolution when it comes to Tesla

59:49

and uh and the Battery Technology there when it comes when it comes to SpaceX uh the state department is

59:54

hugely dependent on SpaceX uh because of its unbelievable uh sort of

1:00:02

pioneering and saturating presence in the field of low earth orbit satellites

1:00:07

that uh are basically how our Telecom you know system runs to things like star link there are dependencies

1:00:13

that the National Security state has on Elon Musk I am not sure he would have as much room to negotiate if he had become the

1:00:20

world's richest man selling you know at a lemonade stand uh so there's

1:00:25

and if the National Security State goes too hard on him by invoking something like cifas to sort of

1:00:31

nationalize some of these properties I think the shock wave that it would send to the international investor Community would be irrecoverable at a time when

1:00:37

we are engaged in great power competition uh so they are trying to kill you know they are trying to sort of induce a I

1:00:43

think a sort of corporate regime change through uh a series of things involving a sort of death by a th000 paper cuts I

1:00:50

think there are seven or eight different um justice department or SEC or FTC

1:00:55

investigations into Elon Musk properties that all started um after his acquisition of X but then what

1:01:02

they are trying to do right now is what I call the transatlantic flank attack 2.0 you know we talked in this in this

1:01:08

dialogue about how the censorship industry really got its start when a bunch of State Department Exiles uh who

1:01:14

we are expecting promotions took their special set of skills in coercing European countries to pass uh sanctions

1:01:20

on themselves to cut off their own leg to spite themselves uh to pass sanctions on Russia they ran back that

1:01:27

same Playbook with doing a road show for censorship instead for sanctions we are now witnessing you know transatlantic

1:01:34

flank attack 2.0 if you will which is because they have lost a lot of their federal government leg uh powers to do

1:01:40

this same censorship operation they had been doing from 2018 to 2022 in part because the house has totally turned

1:01:47

on them in part because of the media and part because Missouri V Biden which won a slam dunk case actually Banning

1:01:53

government censorship at the trial court and Appel Court levels is now between the uh before The Supreme Court they've

1:01:59

now moved into two strategies one of them is state level uh censorship

1:02:05

laws California just passed a new law which the censorship industry totally drove from start to finish around

1:02:11

require they call it transform plat you know platform accountability and transparency which is basically forcing

1:02:18

you know Elon Musk to give over the kind of narrative mapping data that these 

1:02:24

conduits and Pentagon cutouts were using to create these weapons of mass deal and these abilities to just censor

1:02:30

everything at scale because they had all the internal platform data Elon Musk took that away they are using state laws

1:02:35

like this new California law to crack that open but the major threat right now is the threat from Europe uh with

1:02:41

with you know something called the uh the EU Digital Services act which was cooked up in tandem with folks like

1:02:49

news guard which is run by you know which has a board of Michael Hayden head of the CIA NSA for four-star General Rick

1:02:55

Spangle is on that board uh you know from the state Department's propaganda office Tom Ridge is on that

1:03:00

board from the from the Department of Homeland Security oh and Anders fog rasm is on that board uh he was the uh

1:03:06

General Secretary of NATO under the Obama Administration so you have NATO the CIA the NSA four-star General DHS and

1:03:12

the state department working with the EU to craft the censorship laws that now

1:03:18

are the largest existential threat to X other than potentially ex Advertiser boycotts because there is now

1:03:24

disinformation is now banned as a matter of law in in in the EU and the EU is a bigger market for X than the US there's

1:03:31

only 300 million some people in the US there is 450 million in Europe X is now forced to comply with this brand-new law

1:03:38

that just got ratified this year uh where they either need to Forfeit 6% of their Global annual revenue to the EU to

1:03:45

maintain operations there or put in place essentially the kind of you know

1:03:50

CIA bumper cars if you will that I have been describing over the course of this to have an internal mechanism to

1:03:57

censor anything that the EU which is just a proxy for NATO uh deems to be

1:04:02

disinformation and you can bet with 65 elections around the around the globe this year um you can you can predict

1:04:08

every single time what they are going to Define disinformation as so that is the main the main fight right now is dealing with the transatlantic flank

1:04:15

attack from Europe I have said this five times but that is just one of the most remarkable stories I have ever heard and

1:04:20

I am grateful to you for bringing it to us Mike Ben's executive director of the foundation for freedom online and I hope

1:04:27

we see you again thanks

1:04:33

Tucker free speech is bigger than any one person or any one organization societies are defined by what they will

1:04:39

not permit what we are watching is the total inversion of virtue

My comment:

The bourgeois democracy in the West is doomed to fail because the bourgeois Establishment is so corrupt deep into its body and soul that only the proletarian revolution can rescue its remnants by totally setting itself free for criticism again. [Mark Wain 2/16/2024

https://www.youtube.com/@wtkh 

https://blog.creaders.net/u/12901/ ]

漢語翻譯

關於政府大規模審查運動您需要了解的一切——美國民主往何處去？

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRYSKaS-XtQ&t=0s

塔克·卡爾森

155 萬訂閱者

2024 年 2 月 16 日

羅莎·盧森堡（Rosa Luxemburg）在jpg附件中的語錄：“沒有社會主義就沒有民主，沒有民主就不會有社會主義。”

大綱

實行國家安全的國家——美國是審查和選舉干預的主要驅動力。 “我所描述的是軍事統治，”邁克·本茨（Mike Benz）說。 “這是民主的倒置。”

對話副本

0:00

美國的決定性事實是言論自由，只要這個國家是例外的

0:06

因為我們有《權利法案第一修正案》，我們有良心自由，我們可以說出我們真正想說的話

0:12

認為仇恨言論沒有例外，僅僅因為你討厭別人認為你無法強迫的事情

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那個人要保持安靜，因為我們是公民而不是奴隸，但我們有權利

0:23

使這個國家成為所有其他權利流動的基本權利

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面對審查制度的高速現在現代審查制度沒有相似之處

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以前的國家和以前的時代的審查制度

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審查制度因打擊虛假信息和惡意行為而受到影響

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信息，了解這些信息的關鍵是它們無處不在並且

0:51

當然他們根本不關心你所說的是真是假

0:57

換句話說，你可以說一些與你自己的良心不符、與以前的事實不符的話。

1:04

你有絕對的權利說這些話，但因為有人不喜歡它們，或者因為

1:09

他們不利於當權者的任何計劃，他們可以被譴責為

1:15

虛假信息，您可能會被剝奪親自或在線表達這些信息的權利

1:21

這些事情可能會成為犯罪行為，並且重要的是要知道這不僅僅是私人行為

1:27

這樣做的部門這些努力是由美國政府指導的，你至少要為此付費

1:32

理論上擁有，這是你的政府，但他們正在以非常高的速度剝奪你的權利，大多數人都明白

1:39

這是直觀的，但他們不知道它是如何發生的 審查制度是如何發生的 其機制是什麼 邁克·本茨

1:47

我們可以有信心地說世界上的專家知道這是如何發生的

1:53

邁克·本茨 (Mike Benz) 曾在國務院負責網絡事務，現在擔任自由基金會的執行董事

1:59

在線，我們將與他就一種非常具體的審查制度進行對話，順便說一下，如果

2:05

你想知道這是怎麼發生的 邁克·本茨 (Mike Benz) 是值得一讀的人，但今天我們只是

2:12

想談談一種特定的審查制度以及源自我們傳說中的軍工聯合體的審查制度

2:19

華盛頓外交政策機構中的國防工業現在意義重大，因為我們正處於

2:24

全球戰爭的風口浪尖，所以你可以預期審查制度會急劇增加，因此這裡是

2:30

邁克·本茨 (Mike Benz) 在線自由基金會執行董事 邁克非常感謝您加入我們，我和

2:36

我無法向我們的聽眾誇大你們在這個主題上的知識是多麼詳盡和全面。

2:42

這幾乎令人難以置信，所以如果你能告訴我們如何

2:47

外交政策制定和國防承包商和國防部以及

2:52

整個集群與國防相關的公共資助機構從我們手中被剝奪了

2:58

言論自由 當然你知道開始故事的最簡單的方法之一就是講故事

3:05

互聯網自由，它從互聯網自由轉向互聯網審查，因為互聯網上的言論自由是

3:12

幾乎從互聯網私有化一開始就成為一種治國手段

3:17

1991 呃通過國防部的呃努力我們很快就發現了

3:24

人們通過互聯網聚集的國務院和我們的情報部門

3:30

博客、論壇和言論自由比任何人都受到了更多的支持

3:35

五角大樓、國務院和我們那種中央情報局剪裁的非政府組織 blob 架構

3:43

支持世界各地的持不同政見團體，幫助他們推翻獨裁政府

3:50

他們本質上是建立在允許互聯網自由言論的基礎上的

3:55

Insta政權更迭行動的一種，能夠為外國提供便利

4:01

政策制定的國務院議程 谷歌就是一個很好的例子 谷歌最初是 DARPA 資助的呃

4:10

拉里·佩奇和謝爾蓋·布倫在斯坦福大學攻讀博士學位時，他們得到了

4:16

他們的資金是中央情報局和國家安全局聯合計劃的一部分，旨在繪製鳥類如何引用

4:22

通過搜索引擎聚合在網上聚集在一起，然後一年後他們推出了谷歌，然後

4:29

很快就成為那裡的軍事承包商他們通過購買中央情報局衛星軟件獲得谷歌地圖後

4:35

本質上呃以及追蹤在互聯網上使用言論自由的能力

4:42

在中亞等地規避國家對媒體控制的方法

4:48

或者世界各地都被認為能夠做以前做的事情

4:54

在中央情報局駐地或大使館或領事館中以完全渦輪增壓的方式完成

5:03

所有的互聯網言論自由技術最初都是由我們的國家安全國家 VPN 虛擬創建的

5:09

私人網絡，隱藏您的 IP 地址 遊覽暗網，以便能夠匿名購買和跟蹤呃銷售商品

5:17

端到端加密聊天所有這些最初都是作為 DARPA 項目或 CIA NSA 聯合項目創建的

5:24

能夠幫助情報支持的團體推翻政府

5:30

給克林頓政府、布什政府或奧巴馬政府帶來了問題，這個計劃奏效了

5:37

神奇的是，從大約 1991 年到大約 2014 年，呃，當時開始有一個關於

5:44

面對互聯網自由及其實用性，這種互聯網言論自由時刻的高水印是阿拉伯人

5:50

2011年的春天2012年的時候你已經一一面對了所有的對手

5:56

奧巴馬政府、埃及、突尼斯等政府都開始在Facebook和Twitter革命中被推翻

6:03

革命，國務院與社交媒體公司密切合作，以便能夠

6:09

在那段時期，保持社交媒體在線，谷歌的賈里德·科恩 (Jared Cohen) 給 Twitter 打了一個著名的電話，

6:17

呃不進行他們的定期維護，以便呃這樣伊朗的首選反對派組織能夠

6:23

使用 Twitter 呃呃來贏得那次選舉，所以這是言論自由，是美國治國之道的工具

6:29

國家安全國家從構建所有 NOS 以及科技公司之間的關係開始

6:36

2014年烏克蘭政變後，為了自由早已建立了國家安全國家

6:44

一場意想不到的反政變，克里米亞和頓巴斯分裂，他們

6:49

脫離了實質上的軍事後盾，而北約當時對此毫無準備

6:56

上一次冰雹三月份的機會是克里米亞吞併投票在呃在

7:02

2014 年，克里米亞人民投票決定加入

7:08

俄羅斯聯邦是壓垮言論自由概念的最後一根稻草

7:13

北約眼中的互聯網，戰爭的根本性質在那一刻發生了變化，北約在那一刻發生了變化

7:20

點宣布了他們首先稱為“賈西姆莫夫主義”的東西，該主義以俄羅斯軍隊的名字命名

7:26

他們聲稱的將軍發表了講話，戰爭的基本性質已經改變，你不需要贏

7:32

軍事衝突接管中歐和東歐你所需要做的就是控制媒體和社交媒體

7:38

生態系統，因為這就是控制選舉的因素，如果你讓正確的政府掌權，他們

7:44

控制軍隊，因此比進行軍事戰爭要便宜得多

7:51

呃對社交媒體和傳統媒體的影響力運作是一個行業

7:56

創建了一個橫跨五角大樓、英國國防部和布魯塞爾的有組織的政治組織

8:05

戰爭裝備主要是最初駐紮在德國和美國的基礎設施

8:11

中歐和東歐建立心理緩衝區基本上是為了創造有能力

8:17

軍方與社交媒體公司合作審查俄羅斯的宣傳

8:22

或者審查正在崛起的歐洲國內右翼民粹主義團體

8:28

由於移民危機而在當時的政治權力中，所以你受到了我們國家的系統性攻擊

8:33

由我們的 IC 部門由五角大樓的德國 afd 等組織負責

8:38

現在，德國人在那裡的土地以及愛沙尼亞、拉脫維亞、立陶宛的團體的替代方案

8:44

當 2016 年英國脫歐發生時，正是在這個危機時刻，他們突然沒有

8:51

必須再擔心中歐和東歐了，俄羅斯控制的想法正在向西蔓延

8:57

就在下個月，2016 年 6 月英國脫歐

9:03

戰爭期間，北約在華沙會議上正式修改其憲章

9:09

明確致力於混合戰爭作為北約的新能力，因此他們

9:15

從你知道的坦克 70 年的歷史到現在的明確容量

9:22

用於審查被視為俄羅斯代理人的推文的建築

9:27

再說一次，這不僅僅是俄羅斯的宣傳，現在還有英國退歐團體或馬托這樣的團體

9:32

薩爾維尼 (Salvini) 在意大利、呃、希臘、德國或西班牙與 Vox 合作

9:38

黨，現在北約正在發布白皮書說北約面臨的最大威脅不是

9:45

來自俄羅斯的軍事入侵，它正在歐洲各地的國內選舉中輸給所有這些右翼分子

9:52

民粹主義團體因為主要是工人階級運動而以廉價的俄羅斯能源為競選對象

9:58

當時正值美國施壓能源多元化政策，所以他們現在在英國脫歐後提出了這一論點

10:06

除非軍方因英國脫歐而控制媒體，否則整個基於規則的國際秩序將會崩潰

10:11

將會引起法國與馬琳·勒龐的配合，西班牙的 Vox 黨退出意大利，

10:18

德國的格雷特和希臘的格雷特歐盟將分崩離析，北約也會

10:24

沒有一顆子彈就被殺死了，然後不僅是現在

10:29

北約現在已經消失了，國際貨幣基金組織、國際貨幣基金組織或世界銀行不再有執行機構

10:35

所以現在依賴國家安全國家攻城槌的金融利益相關者基本上會

10:40

從他們的角度來看，如果軍方不開始審查，我們將無法對抗世界各地的政府

10:47

互聯網上所有民主機構和基礎設施都催生了現代世界

10:53

第二次世界大戰即將崩潰，所以你可以想象 2016 年的唐·特魯姆 (Don Trum)

10:59

選舉所以你好吧，你剛剛講述了一個非凡的故事，我從未聽過任何人解釋得如此清晰明了

11:05

就像你剛才所做的那樣，但是北約的任何人或國務院的任何人都停頓了一下並說等一下，我們已經

11:12

剛剛確定我們的新敵人是我們自己國家內的民主，我想這就是你所說的

11:18

他們擔心自己國家的人民會為所欲為，因此他們發動了戰爭來反對他們

11:24

是的，現在你知道這方面的歷史可以追溯到冷戰時期，你知道歐洲的冷戰是

11:30

本質上是一場類似的鬥爭，為人們的心靈和思想進行鬥爭，特別是在中歐和東歐

11:37

是的，你知道在這些類型中，你知道蘇聯的緩衝區，你從

11:42

1948 年國家安全國家真正成立，然後你知道你有 1947 年的法案，該法案建立了

11:49

中央情報局你有呃你知道這個新的世界秩序

11:54

與所有這些國際機構一起創建了 1948 年聯合國人權宣言

12:00

禁止通過軍事力量獲取領土，因此你不能再

12:05

以我們能夠做到的方式管理一個傳統的軍事占領政府

12:11

例如，1898 年，當我們占領菲律賓時，一切都必須通過某種政治手段來完成

12:17

合法化進程，國內人民的內心和思想中得到一定程度的認可

12:24

現在，這常常涉及到被我們國務院培養成領導人的傀儡政客，但

12:31

爭取心靈和思想的鬥爭一直是我們給自己施加了很長的道德束縛的事情，如果

12:39

你會呃，自 1948 年以來，中央情報局的教父之一喬治·凱南 (George Kennan)

12:44

嗯，在我們通過塞滿投票箱和與暴徒合作來操縱 1948 年意大利選舉 12 天后，我們

12:51

發表了一份名為“有組織的政治戰爭的啟動”的備忘錄，他在其中說，聽着，這是一個卑鄙的舊世界

12:58

我們中央情報局剛剛操縱了意大利選舉，我們必須這樣做，因為如果共產黨獲勝，也許永遠不會有

13:03

意大利再次舉行選舉，所以呃，但這很有效，夥計們，呃，我們需要一個骯髒的伎倆部門

13:10

能夠在世界各地做到這一點，這本質上是我們正在與美國建立的新社會契約

13:16

人們，因為這不是我們以前進行外交的方式，但我們現在被禁止使用戰爭

13:21

1948年，他們還將陸軍部更名為國防部，因此，這也是這次外交的一部分

13:27

對政治控制的攻擊，而不是看起來像是對軍事控制的攻擊，但本質上是最終的結果

13:34

發生的事情是，我們創建了這個外國國內防火牆，我們說我們有一個骯髒的伎倆部門

13:40

能夠操縱選舉，能夠控制媒體，能夠干涉其他陰謀的內政

13:47

這個國家的泥土，但是美國祖國坐落的這種神聖的泥土將呃，他們是

13:54

不允許在那裡開展活動 國務院、國防部、中央情報局都被明確禁止

14:00

在我們的土地上運作當然這與實際情況相去甚遠，這甚至都不好笑，但是呃，但這是因為一些

14:07

他們70多年來開發的洗錢伎倆，但本質上是不道德的

14:12

起初對於審查員的設立感到困惑船舶工業何時

14:17

它始於德國、立陶宛、意大利、愛沙尼亞和

14:23

瑞典和芬蘭呃之後就開始了更多的外交辯論

14:29

英國脫歐，然後呃，特朗普當選後就全速前進了，什麼

14:36

那裡的阻力很小，但被上漲和飽和衝垮了。

14:42

俄羅斯之門基本上讓他們不必處理道德問題

14:47

審查自己的人民的含糊之處，因為如果特朗普是俄羅斯的資產，你

14:53

不再真正存在傳統的言論自由問題，這是一個國家安全問題，直到俄羅斯之門消失之後才出現

14:58

2019 年 7 月在呃去世，當時羅伯特·穆勒 (Robert Mueller) 基本上在證人席上窒息了

15:03

3個小時後，經過兩年半的調查，他發現自己一無所獲

15:10

國內 Switcheroo 發生了，他們採取了跨越國土安全部、聯邦調查局的所有審查制度

15:18

中央情報局、國防部、司法部以及數千個政府資助的非政府組織和

15:25

私營僱傭軍公司基本上都是由外國方便旗轉型而來

15:30

從外國謂詞俄羅斯虛假信息謂詞到民主謂詞，說虛假信息

15:37

這不僅僅是來自俄羅斯的威脅，也是對民主本身的內在威脅，因此

15:43

他們能夠在 2020 年及時清洗整個民主促進政權更迭工具包

15:49

選舉我的意思是這幾乎令人難以置信，這已經發生了我的意思是我自己的父親為美國工作

15:56

政府在針對蘇聯的信息戰中參與了這項業務，你知道這是其中的重要組成部分

16:03

任何這些工具都會被美國用來對付美國公民的想法

16:10

政府是我想我想認為是不可想象的並且說話

16:15

1988年，你說確實沒有人提出反對，只是絕對如此

16:22

向內操縱和操縱我們自己的選舉，就像我們會說“是的，一旦民主”

16:28

謂詞成立了，你有這個專業的政權更迭藝術家和操作人員的專業階層

16:34

正是這些人認為，我們需要給南斯拉夫帶來民主，這就是

16:40

擺脫你知道莫斯科或世界上任何其他我們基本上推翻的國家的謂詞

16:46

如果民主威脅是國內產生的，那麼政府就必須很好地維護民主

16:54

變成呃你知道然後突然這些人都有了新的工作

16:59

在美國方面，我可以舉出一百萬個例子，但你剛才提到的一件事

17:05

也就是說你從他們的角度知道他們

17:10

只是還沒有準備好迎接互聯網 2016 年確實是社交媒體第一次

17:17

媒體已經達到了如此成熟的程度，以至於它開始讓傳統媒體黯然失色，我的意思是

17:22

這是一個很長的時間，我想人們從 2006 年就看到了這座建築

17:27

到 2006 年，你知道，從 1991 年到 2004 年，互聯網 1.0 甚至沒有社交媒體

17:34

根本就沒有社交媒體 204 Facebook 於 2005 年問世 Twitter 2006 年

17:40

YouTube 2007 智能手機等等以及社交媒體的初始階段

17:45

沒有人能達到與傳統新聞媒體競爭的水平，但在

17:53

當然，你知道最初甚至美國國內的這些持不同政見者的聲音

17:58

呃，儘管他們可能聲音很大，呃，在他們從未達到 3000 萬粉絲的時刻，他們從來沒有

18:06

作為未經審查的成熟生態系統允許的，每年達到十億次展示次數

18:15

公民記者和獨立聲音能夠在競爭中超越傳統

18:20

新聞媒體這在我們的軍隊和我們的國家引發了巨大的危機

18:26

我在 2019 年德國國防部會議上舉了一個很好的例子

18:33

馬歇爾基金這是你知道的一個可以追溯到美國的機構呃

18:38

基本上，嗯我不想說賄賂，但本質上是歐洲的軟實力經濟軟實力預測

18:45

作為二戰後歐洲政府重建的一部分，以便能夠基本上支付他們的費用

18:52

與元帥基金美元，然後作為回報，他們基本上在我們的拇指之下，就他們如何偵察而言

18:58

建造了呃，但是德國馬歇爾基金在 2019 年召開了一次會議，坦率地說，他們持有 100 萬個這樣的基金，但是

19:05

他們是四星將軍呃在小組中站起來說呃

19:12

他提出了美國會發生什麼的問題

19:19

當《紐約時報》縮小為中等規模的 Facebook 時，國家安全國家會發生什麼

19:25

頁面，他提出了這個思想實驗作為我們已經進行過的例子

19:31

這些守門人我們已經在演示中提供了這些碰碰車形式為a的cracy

19:38

與傳統媒體機構的百年關係我的意思是我們的主流媒體沒有任何形式和

19:45

甚至從一開始就獨立於國家安全國家、獨立於國務院、獨立於戰爭

19:51

部門呃你知道你有最初的呃所有最初的呃廣播新聞公司 NBC ABC 和 CBS

19:59

全部是由戰爭信息辦公室的退伍軍人創建的，他們來自戰爭部在第二次世界大戰中的努力

20:05

你有你有這些從 20 世紀 50 年代到 70 年代的知更鳥行動關係，這些關係仍在繼續

20:12

利用國家民主基金會和情報能力私有化

20:18

在里根統治下的 20 世紀 80 年代，嗯，有各種各樣的中央情報局閱讀閱覽室備忘錄。

20:23

甚至可以在 cia.gov 上閱讀有關整個 90 年代持續的媒體關係的信息

20:28

因此，華盛頓郵報、紐約時報和所有主要媒體之間總是存在這種後門關係

20:35

廣播媒體公司，你知道魯珀特·默多克和福克斯也是其中的一部分，你也知道魯珀特

20:41

默多克於 1983 年加入國家民主基金會，當時該聯盟的名稱為

20:47

在民主黨被擊敗後，Pro 可以光明正大地開展中央情報局行動的一種方式

20:52

人們對中央情報局在 20 世紀 70 年代操縱學生運動感到不滿，但實際上中央情報局並不存在

21:01

隨機公民記者賬戶的中介，沒有五角大樓的後盾，你無法獲得

21:07

故事殺死了你不能擁有這些恩惠關係你不能承諾訪問一些隨機的

21:13

擁有 70 萬粉絲的人，對敘利亞天然氣有意見，所以這個

21:19

這對於 2006 年至 2014 年社交媒體的初始階段來說不是問題，因為從來沒有

21:27

不和諧的團體足夠大，能夠自己擁有一個足夠成熟的生態系統，並且所有的

21:34

社交媒體上的勝利已經影響了國務院的資金來源，

21:40

國防部和情報部門，但隨着成熟的發生，你現在有了這個

21:46

2016 年大選後的情況是，他們說好吧，現在整個國際秩序可能會崩潰 70

21:54

從杜魯門到特朗普多年的統一外交政策現在即將被打破，我們需要同樣的模擬

22:03

控制系統我們必須能夠通過傳統媒體將碰碰車放在壞故事或壞政治運動上

22:10

我們現在需要在社交媒體公司內部建立和鞏固的關係和聯繫以及最初的

22:17

其謂詞是“俄羅斯門”，但在“俄羅斯門”死後，他們使用了簡單的民主促進

22:22

然後它催生了這個價值數十億美元的審查行業，該行業將

22:29

軍工聯合體、政府、私營部門、民間社會組織，然後是這個龐大的組織

22:36

充當此類哨兵階層的媒體盟友和專業事實歡呼團體的蜘蛛網

22:42

它調查了互聯網上的每一個詞，所以你能給我們一些信息並表示感謝

22:49

您再次對為什麼會發生這種情況做出了幾乎令人難以置信的解釋，您能給我們舉個例子來說明它是如何發生的嗎

22:57

我知道國家安全國家如何對人民撒謊的無數例子，如何公正地挑選一個

23:06

審查現實生活中的真相，是的，所以你知道我們有這種狀態

23:11

名為“全球參與中心”的部門機構是由一個名叫 Rick Spangle 的人創建的，他描述了

23:17

他本人是奧巴馬的宣傳員和負責人，他是負責公共事務的副部長，這本質上是

23:24

Rel 是國務院和國務院之間的聯絡辦公室角色

23:29

主流媒體，所以這基本上就是政府談論戰爭、外交或

23:36

治國之道與主流媒體同步 我可以補充一些我認識的人 Rick Spangle 他

23:43

曾經是一名記者，嗯，里克·斯潘格爾（Rick Spangle）曾公開反對第一修正案和反對

23:49

言論自由和一些相關內容，他在 2019 年出版了一個 opad，他就此寫了一整本書，你知道他創造了

23:56

我們只是你知道的論點在這裡，本質上是憲法

24:03

沒有為互聯網做好準備，呃，我們需要相應地廢除第一修正案，呃，你知道他

24:10

當他擔任《時代》雜誌總編輯時，甚至當他

24:16

在奧巴馬領導下的國務院，呃，他創辦了一個叫做全球參與中心的機構，這是

24:22

聯邦政府內部的第一次政府審查呃運作，但它是

24:28

正面對着所以現在沒問題了，當時他們使用呃本土的伊斯蘭國

24:34

普雷迪對此進行了威脅，因此很難反駁國務院的想法，呃有這個

24:41

與美國各大科技平台建立正式協調夥伴關係

24:46

因為你知道，當時伊斯蘭國發動了這些襲擊，我們被告知伊斯蘭國正在招募人員

24:53

Twitter 和 Facebook，因此全球參與中心的成立本質上是為了成為一個國務院嗯

25:00

跟社交媒體公司的糾纏基本上把碰碰車放在他們呃平台能力上

25:06

他們所做的一件事就是創建了一個新帳戶

25:11

技術，它被稱為自然語言處理，它是一種人工的

25:17

智能機器學習呃有能力用單詞按順序創造意義

25:23

繪製每個人在互聯網上所說的一切內容的地圖，並創建這個社區如何進行的巨大地形圖

25:30

是在網上組織的，他們的主要影響力是他們在談論什麼，正在出現什麼敘述或

25:36

趨勢並能夠創建這種網絡圖呃知道目標是誰以及呃以及如何

25:43

信息在生態系統中流動，因此他們開始繪製前綴和後綴的語言

25:49

流行術語 Isis 呃人們在 Twitter 上談論的口號

25:55

當特朗普在 2016 年贏得大選時，嗯嗯，所有在該州工作的人

26:01

呃，部門期待希拉里領導下的白宮國家安全委員會的晉升

26:07

我應該提醒一下克林頓，你們知道，他也是奧巴馬領導下的國務卿，負責管理國家

26:13

部門，但這些人都期待 2016 年 11 月 18 日升職，並且

26:20

據《紐約時報》報道，在比賽當天，一個以 20 比 1 的失敗者比例被一個人毫不客氣地解僱了。

26:26

選舉發生時，這些國務院人員利用他們的特殊技能來脅迫

26:33

政府呃到C到國務院領導了制裁的努力

26:39

2014年，這些國家因吞併克里米亞而制裁俄羅斯

26:44

部門外交官進行了一次國際路演，向歐洲各國政府施壓，要求通過審查制度

26:50

審查歐洲右翼民粹主義團體的法律並作為迴旋鏢

26:55

對審查隸屬美國的民粹主義團體的影響，所以有人去了

27:02

例如從國務院直接到大西洋理事會，這是主要的推動者呃

27:09

在政府之間，呃，在政府與政府之間的審查制度之間，大西洋理事會是一個組織，它是一個

27:15

拜登最大的政治支持者，他們呃，他們把自己打造為北約的智囊團，所以他們代表了

27:22

北約的政治普查以及北約在許多方面進行的民事普查

27:28

他們希望協調的社會行動與大西洋地區的軍事行動同步

27:34

委員會的主要任務是建立共識，並在某個區域內採取政治行動。

27:40

現在，北約對大西洋理事會感興趣，其董事會中有七名中央情報局局長，但很多人甚至不知道

27:46

七名中央情報局局長還活着，只有洛一人，他們都集中在一個組織的董事會上，這個組織是

27:52

他們是審查行業的重量級人物，他們每年從國防部、國務院和中央情報局那裡獲得資金

27:59

與國家民主基金會一樣，亞特蘭大委員會於 2017 年 1 月立即採取行動施壓

28:05

歐洲各國政府將通過審查法，以完全相同的方式創建跨大西洋側翼 ATT 坦克，以保障言論自由

28:12

里克·斯潘格爾（Rick Spangle）本質上呼籲我們模仿歐洲審查法，他們這樣做的方式之一是

28:20

讓德國隊在 2017 年 8 月通過了一個名為 Nets DG 的項目，這實際上是一個開始

28:26

在美國呃自動審查時代，網絡GG要求的是除非

28:34

社交媒體平台希望為每個帖子中留下的每條言論支付 5400 萬美元的罰款

28:41

超過48小時的平台被認定為仇恨言論，嗯他們會被罰款基本上

28:48

當每天數以萬計的帖子累計 5400 萬條時，你就會破產，而圍繞它的避風港就是

28:56

如果他們再次部署基於人工智能的審查技術

29:01

由 DARPA 創建，旨在對抗 Isis，使其能夠掃描並禁止言論

29:07

自動地，這讓你知道我稱這些武器為大規模刪除武器，它們本質上是

29:12

只需幾行代碼即可審查數千萬個帖子的能力

29:18

完成此操作的方法是基本上聚合以下領域

29:23

如果你願意的話，審查科學將兩組不同的螺柱融合在一起，其中存在某種政治和社會因素

29:30

像你這樣的科學家那些應該受到審查的領導者，如果你

29:36

這些將是程序員、計算數據科學家、計算語言學嗎？

29:41

大學 現在有 60 多所大學獲得聯邦政府撥款來進行這種審查制度呃審查制度

29:48

他們所做的就是創建人們使用的語言的密碼本，就像他們為伊斯蘭國所做的那樣

29:55

例如，他們用新冠病毒創建了這些新冠詞典，記錄持不同政見團體的言論

30:01

關於托尼·福奇（Tony Fauci）或嗯或等知名人士的疫苗的強制要求

30:09

呃 Peter Dashiki 或任何其他受保護的 VIP 個人，他們的聲譽必須在網上得到保護

30:16

他們創建了這些密碼書 他們將事情分解成敘述 例如亞特蘭大議會就是其中的一部分

30:21

其中，政府資助了一個名為“病毒性項目”的聯盟，該項目繪製了 66 個不同的地圖

30:28

持不同政見者圍繞新冠病毒談論的一切，從共同起源到疫苗功效，然後

30:35

他們將這 66 個主張分解為所有不同的事實子主張，然後將它們插入到這些主張中

30:42

本質上是機器學習模型，能夠獲得每個人都在談論的內容的恆定世界熱圖

30:49

新冠病毒以及每當出現不利於五角大樓想要的或不利於托尼·福奇的趨勢的趨勢

30:55

希望他們能夠刪除數千萬個帖子，他們在 2020 年選舉中通過郵件和選票做到了這一點

31:01

這是同樣的問題，我很抱歉，我只是想知道這裡有這麼多，這太令人震驚了，所以你說的是

31:09

五角大樓，我們的五角大樓，美國國防部在

31:16

2020 年選舉周期是的，他們這樣做了他們哦他們通過所以這樣做了

31:23

我認為迄今為止人類歷史上審查最嚴重的兩個事件是 2020 年大選和 covid-19

31:32

大流行，我會向你解釋我是如何在那兒播出的，所以 2020 年

31:38

選舉是通過郵件和選票決定的，我不會考慮是否郵寄和選票的實質內容

31:43

是否是合法或安全可靠的投票形式，這是一個完全獨立於我的話題

31:51

與審查制度問題相比，這一觀點更為重要，但對郵件和選票的審查確實是最重要的審查制度之一

31:57

我們美國歷史上的非凡故事我認為發生的事情是

32:02

你是國土安全部內部有這個陰謀嗎現在這又回到了我們正在討論的話題

32:08

與國務院的全球參與中心一起，亞特蘭大委員會和外交政策機構中也有這個小組

32:15

2017年爭論需要設立一個永久性的國內審查政府辦公室來充當四分衛

32:23

他們所謂的全社會反虛假信息反虛假信息聯盟，這只是意味着

32:29

審查制度反對錯誤或虛假信息，但整個社會模型明確提出我們需要

32:36

社會內的每一項資產都將被動員起來參與整個社會的努力

32:42

為了阻止網上的錯誤信息，這對民主構成了很大的生存威脅，所以他們

32:49

2017年確定必須以政府為中心，因為只有政府才有影響力

32:55

以及強制威脅權力以及能夠告訴社交媒體公司什麼的感知權威

33:02

要做才能召集 NG（政府資助的非政府組織群）來創建媒體環繞聲

33:09

武裝一個錫罐，你知道一支由事實跳棋組成的 AstroTurf 軍隊，並且能夠聯絡和連接所有這些不同的人

33:16

審查行業參與者陷入了一個有凝聚力的統一洞，亞特蘭大議會最初提出了這一點

33:22

藍圖稱為前鋒防守，這不是進攻，而是前鋒防守，他們阿爾建議用完這個

33:28

國務院全球參與中心的成員，因為他們在那裡擁有如此多的資產，在里克·斯潘格爾·斯蒂德 (Rick Spangle Steed) 的領導下，他們在審查方面非常有效

33:36

在奧巴馬政府的領導下，但他們說哦，我們將無法逃脫懲罰，因為我們並沒有真正的國家安全

33:41

謂詞，它應該是面向外國的，我們不能真正使用這個鈎子，除非我們有一種國家安全鈎子，然後他們考慮

33:48

在中央情報局停車，他們說，好吧，我們不能這樣做有兩個原因，中央情報局是外國人面對我們

33:54

無法真正建立反情報威脅並將其帶回國內，我們基本上需要數萬人

33:59

參與這個跨越整個社會模式的行動，你不能真正以這種方式進行秘密行動，所以他們

34:06

說好的好的他們說聯邦調查局怎麼樣 聯邦調查局會很棒 這是在國內 但問題是聯邦調查局

34:11

應該是司法部的情報部門，我們和我們在這裡處理的事情不是

34:18

違法這基本上是對特朗普的支持，或者如果你知道左翼民粹主義者是否像伯尼那樣掌權

34:24

我毫不懷疑他們會在英國對桑德斯或傑里米·科爾賓做同樣的事情，他們的目標是傑里·傑里米·科爾賓

34:30

以及歐洲其他左翼民粹主義納托克懷疑團體，但在美國，一切都是特朗普的主張，所以

34:37

基本上，他們所說的是，除了聯邦調查局之外，我們在美國擁有的唯一其他國內情報機構是

34:43

國土安全部，所以我們基本上將利用中央情報局的權力來操縱和賄賂外國

34:49

媒體組織，這是他們自 1947 年誕生之日起就擁有的權力，我們將把它結合起來

34:56

將聯邦調查局的國內管轄權交給國土安全部，這樣國土安全部基本上就被代理了

35:05

通過這個不起眼的小網絡安全機構被授權擁有中央情報局擁有的綜合權力

35:12

在國外，在國內受 FBI 管轄，他們的做法是，網絡是如何成為一個不起眼的小網絡的？

35:18

安全呃機構獲得這種權力是因為他們做了一個有趣的小系列

35:24

所以這個叫做 SISA 的小東西他們沒有稱之為虛假信息治理委員會他們沒有稱之為

35:30

審查機構給它起了一個沒人會注意到的不起眼的小名字，叫做網絡安全和

35:35

基礎設施安全局，他的創始人說我們只是安全，我們非常關心安全，這是以我們的名義

35:41

有兩次你知道每個人都閉上眼睛假裝你知道那是什麼，但它是由

35:46

2018 年國會 AC，因為俄羅斯被黑客攻擊視為威脅

35:52

2016 年的選舉對它進行了物理攻擊，所以我們需要網絡安全能力，呃，以便能夠

36:00

能夠處理這個問題，基本上是在 2017 年 1 月 6 日中央情報局備忘錄和國土安全部同一天發布的

36:07

2017 年 1 月 6 日的行政命令，聲稱俄羅斯干預了 2016 年選舉和國土安全部的授權

36:14

說選舉現在是關鍵的基礎設施，你在國土安全部擁有新的權力說網絡安全

36:21

對選舉的攻擊現在是我們的職權範圍，然後他們做了兩件可愛的事情

36:27

他們說他們說網上的 Mis dis 和 Mal 信息是一種形式

36:35

網絡安全攻擊它們是網絡攻擊，因為它們發生在網上

36:40

他們說，實際上，俄羅斯的虛假信息是，我們正在保護選舉中的民主，我們

36:47

俄羅斯之門死後不需要俄羅斯謂詞，就像你讓這個網絡安全機構能夠

36:54

如果您破壞了公眾信心，則可以合法地提出您發布有關郵件和選票的推文的論點，並且

37:00

對他們作為合法投票形式的信任現在對我們進行網絡攻擊至關重要

37:07

通過在 Twitter 上闡明錯誤信息等來破壞基礎設施

37:12

換句話說，他們現在所做的就是抱怨選舉舞弊

37:18

與關閉我們的電網是一樣的，是的，您實際上可以在周四 9:30 坐在馬桶座上

37:26

晚上和推特我認為郵件和選票是非法的，而你是

37:31

本質上，然後陷入國土安全部的十字準線，將你歸類為進行

37:38

對我們關鍵基礎設施的網絡攻擊，因為您在網絡領域在線發布錯誤信息

37:45

當錯誤信息破壞公眾對我們的信心和信心時，它就是對民主的網絡攻擊。

37:53

民主選舉和我們的民主機構最終將遠遠超出他們所定義的民主機構

38:00

呃，這是另一件事，是對呃的網絡安全攻擊，旨在破壞主流媒體

38:06

被認為是一個稍後出現的民主機構，最終發生的事情是在 2020 年之前

38:12

選舉並從 2020 年 4 月開始，儘管這可以追溯到特朗普新保守主義之前

38:19

共和黨國土安全部在國家安全方面主要與北約合作，

38:26

他們，本質上是民主黨全國委員會，如果你願意使用國土安全部作為啟動點

38:32

政府協調的大規模審查運動涵蓋各個領域

38:38

地球上唯一一個社交媒體平台來預先審查以下內容的能力：

38:44

質疑郵件和選票的合法性，他們是這樣做的，他們匯總了四種不同的

38:50

機構 呃，斯坦福大學，華盛頓大學，一家名為 graa 的公司，以及現在的亞特蘭大理事會

38:58

所有這四個機構的中心本質上都是五角大樓你有呃

39:05

斯坦福 AET 天文台是由邁克爾·麥克福爾 (Michael McFall) 管理的，如果你認識邁克爾·麥克福爾 (Michael McFall)，他是美國人

39:12

奧巴馬政府時期的駐俄羅斯大使，他

39:18

親自撰寫了關於如何成功編排顏色的 7ep 劇本

39:23

正在發生的革命和其中的一部分涉及保持對媒體和社交媒體的完全控制

39:30

公民社會組織呃稱選舉是合法的

39:36

你們這些人都是專業的俄羅斯鱷魚，2016 年的專業選舉被剝奪了合法性，我稍後會講到這一點

39:43

因此，斯坦福大學名義上的斯坦福怡安天文台由邁克爾·M·麥克福爾 (Michael M McFall) 領導，由亞歷克斯 (Alex) 管理

39:50

斯塔莫斯曾任 Facebook 高管，曾與 odni 和

39:56

關於呃俄羅斯之門，你知道摧毀俄羅斯的宣傳

40:02

Facebook 所以這是另一個呃聯絡人，本質上是國家安全局，在桑福德的亞歷克斯·達莫斯領導下

40:09

觀察員是蕾妮·德斯塔 (Renee Desta)，她在中央情報局 (CIA) 開始了她的職業生涯，並撰寫了參議院情報委員會的報告

40:16

俄羅斯的虛假信息還有很多，我會離開，我會到另一個時間，但下一個

40:21

機構是華盛頓大學，本質上是西雅圖的比爾蓋茨大學，其領導者

40:28

作者：凱特·斯塔博（Kate Starbow），呃，她基本上是三代軍事要員

40:33

我們獲得了危機信息學博士學位，主要是為五角大樓進行社交媒體監控，

40:40

讓您了解 DARPA 的資助以及主要與國家安全部門的合作，然後重新調整用途

40:46

為了處理郵件和選票，第三家公司 Graphica 獲得了五角大樓 700 萬美元的撥款，並以

40:54

五角大樓糞便倡議的一部分 糞便倡議是五角大樓的心理戰研究中心

41:00

五角大樓他們這個組織正在進行社交媒體間諜活動

41:06

為五角大樓繪製敘事圖，直到 2016 年大選發生，然後重新調整用途，與

41:13

國土安全部審查你知道的 2200 萬條特朗普推文，呃，支持特朗普的關於郵件和郵件的推文

41:19

選票，然後我提到的第四個機構是大西洋理事會，董事會中有七名中央情報局局長，所以一個接一個

41:26

這正是本·里斯在奧巴馬時代所描述的“斑點”

41:31

外交政策機構是國防部、國務院或中央情報局

41:38

當然，這是因為他們受到特朗普外交政策的威脅，所以雖然很多

41:45

審查制度看起來像是在國內發生的，它是由我們面向外國的骯髒部門進行的

41:50

顏色革命團伙的伎倆，他們是專業的政府禮帽，然後基本上是在 2020 年降臨的

41:57

現在選舉他們這樣做了他們在磁帶上明確表示了這次選舉的誠信夥伴關係負責人

42:04

我的基金會剪掉了它們，並在國會播放過，它在密蘇里州的一部分

42:10

V·拜登現在提起訴訟，但他們在錄音中明確表示，他們準備這樣做

42:16

政府被禁止自己做的事情，然後他們制定了一個多步驟框架來強制執行

42:23

所有科技公司都接受審查，他們在錄音中表示，如果不是為了

42:29

他們的壓力涉及使用政府武力威脅，因為他們是政府的代理機構

42:35

他們與國土安全部有正式的合作夥伴關係，他們能夠使用國土安全部專有的國內虛假信息

42:41

總機立即與所有科技公司的高層討論拆除事宜，他們在磁帶上吹噓

42:47

他們如何讓科技公司全部系統地採用名為“言論違規禁令”的新服務條款

42:54

非法化，這意味着任何推文、任何 YouTube 視頻、任何 Facebook 帖子、任何內容

42:59

Tik Tok 視頻 任何 Discord 發布任何 twitch 視頻 互聯網上的任何內容

43:05

呃，這破壞了公眾對使用郵件和選票或提前投票投遞箱的信心和信心，或者

43:14

或選舉日的選票統計問題是一個嚴肅的招牌呃條款

43:19

他們只是因為通過治理而採用了這種新的非法化政策下的服務違規政策

43:26

來自選舉誠信夥伴關係的壓力，他們在磁帶上吹噓，包括他們使用的網格

43:31

這樣做的同時，還威脅政府要解散他們或政府停止這樣做

43:37

對科技公司有利，除非他們這樣做，並通過與媒體盟友合作引發危機公關

43:43

他們說政府國土安全部自己無法做到這一點，所以他們建立了這個基本上是國家的星座

43:50

五角大樓部門h 和 IC 網絡來運行這種審查制度

43:56

根據他們自己的計算，僅在 Twitter 上就有 2200 萬條推文，請注意，他們今年只在 15 個平台上發布了推文

44:03

數以億計的帖子全部被掃描、禁止或限制

44:08

這樣它們就不能被放大，或者它們存在於某種有限的狀態煉獄中，或者修復了這些摩擦

44:14

以事實檢查標籤的形式向他們提供信息，您實際上無法點擊該內容，或者您必須點擊它，因為能夠點擊該內容會帶來不便

44:20

現在就分享吧，他們在選舉前幾個月就這樣做了，因為當時他們擔心

44:26

在所謂的紅色幻影事件中拜登獲勝的合法性

44:31

藍移事件他們知道拜登能夠獲勝的唯一方法是在數學上獲勝呃是通過

44:38

民主黨不成比例地使用郵件和選票，他們知道這會引發危機，因為這看起來會是一場危機

44:43

如果特朗普看起來像他在七個州獲勝，那真是太奇怪了，不，你知道呃

44:49

然後三天后，選舉開關出現了，我的意思是，這將使選舉危機

44:55

布什·戈爾選舉呃在國家安全國家所說的類固醇水平上好吧公眾不會

45:02

做好準備，所以我們需要做的是我們需要提前進行預審查

45:25

看起來確實很糟糕，呃，你知道，尤其是當你將這一點與以下事實結合起來時

45:31

緊隨彈劾之後，五角大樓領導中央情報局領導彈劾你

45:38

知道這是來自中央情報局的埃里克·薩拉拉，也是來自五角大樓的害蟲

45:43

呃，誰在 2019 年底領導了對特朗普的彈劾，因為呃，你知道一個所謂的指控

45:49

打電話給扣留烏克蘭援助的同一個網絡

45:54

直接來自五角大樓呃混合戰爭網絡呃軍事審查制度

46:00

2014 年第一次烏克蘭危機後創建的網絡是領先者

46:06

2019 年烏克蘭彈劾案的策劃者，然後作為 2020 年大選的一部分，他又再次強勢回歸

46:14

審查制度，但你從他們的角度來看我是認真的

46:19

看起來像是一次完美的犯罪，這些人實際上是國土安全部當時抓捕的人

46:24

全國選舉的大部分內容已聯邦化 INF 嗯嗯嗯 政府

46:29

截至 2017 年 1 月 6 日，呃，即將離任的行政命令

46:35

奧巴馬，國土安全部負責人傑德·約翰遜，呃，這基本上涵蓋了所有 50 個州

46:41

與國土安全部建立正式合作夥伴關係，因此國土安全部同時負責許多地方的選舉管理

46:46

尊重和審查任何挑戰選舉管理的人呃這個

46:53

就像你知道的那樣，基本上將審判的被告呃作為法官

46:59

和審判陪審團是這樣的，但你不是在描述民主，我的意思是你正在描述一個民主的國家

47:05

不可能 我本質上描述的是軍事統治 我的意思是 這就是我的意思是隨着崛起而發生的事情

47:11

審查行業的做法完全顛倒了民主本身的理念，你知道民主有點像

47:18

它的合法性來自於它是由人民同意統治的理念

47:25

被統治的人民並不是真正被霸主統治，因為政府只是

47:30

我們的意願通過我們同意我們投票給誰來表達，在整個推動之後

47:36

2016 年大選、英國脫歐以及其他幾次你知道社交媒體舉辦的選舉出了問題

47:43

與國務院想要的（例如 2016 年菲律賓大選）完全相反

47:50

我們所描述的一切都是民主社會的基礎，以便應對威脅

47:56

互聯網上的言論自由，他們本質上說的是我們需要重新定義民主，使其不再是關於

48:02

選民的意願是關於民主制度的神聖性以及誰是民主黨的成員

48:08

機構哦，是我們，你知道，是軍隊，是北約，是國際貨幣基金組織和世界銀行，是呃，是

48:15

主流媒體呃，這是誰，哦，這些當然是

48:21

主要由國務院或IC資助，基本上都是精英

48:27

呃，那些受到國內民粹主義崛起威脅的機構，宣布了自己的

48:34

共識是民主的新定義，因為如果你將民主定義為民主的力量

48:39

民主制度而不是關注選民的意願，那麼你剩下的基本上就是

48:47

民主只是民主機構內部的共識建設架構，

48:53

從他們的角度來看，這需要做很多工作我的意思是我的意思是這些人所做的工作量我的意思是例如我們

49:00

提到了大西洋理事會，它是這些大型協調機構之一一個地區的石油和天然氣工業機制

49:07

為金融和摩根大通以及該地區的黑石為NOS 在該地區為

49:13

該地區的媒體所有這些都需要達成共識，這個過程需要大量的時間，需要大量的工作和

49:19

從他們的角度來看，民主的大量談判正在讓 NOS 同意黑人的觀點

49:25

同意你所知道的《華爾街日報》的觀點 同意呃你社區和活動家的觀點

49:32

參與某項特定倡議的團體，該倡議是艱難的投票過程

49:38

如果最終你們知道一群民粹主義團體決定他們喜歡卡車司機，他們的觀點

49:45

誰在 Tik Tok 上比你精心構建的共識更受歡迎

49:50

那麼從他們的角度來看，你知道這現在是對民主的攻擊，這是對北約軍事高層的攻擊

49:58

這整個品牌努力是什麼，當然，民主再次具有神奇的政權更迭謂詞，其中民主

50:05

這是我們神奇的手錶詞，能夠以某種顏色革命的方式從頭開始推翻政府

50:12

整個社會都努力從內部推翻民主選舉的政府，例如我們在

50:19

烏克蘭維克多·亞努科維奇是由喜歡他或討厭他的烏克蘭人民民主選舉產生的

50:25

甚至沒有在那裡發表意見，但事實是我們對他進行顏色革命，讓他下台

50:30

坦白說，我們 1 月 6 日他不在辦公室，我的意思是關於你知道的狀態

50:36

部門資助了正確的部門暴徒，你知道價值 50 億美元的民事

50:41

社會資金投入其中，以民主和民主的名義推翻民選政府。

50:46

他們把這套特殊的技能帶回家，現在也許就在這裡

50:53

有可能留下來，這從根本上改變了美國的性質

50:58

治理是因為你知道“一個小聲音”在社交媒體上變得流行的威脅 我可以問一個問題嗎

51:05

進入你所說的那一組機構現在定義民主

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NGS 嗯外交政策制定等等，你包括主流媒體

51:18

現在在 20121 年，國家安全局闖入了我的私人文本應用程序並閱讀了它們，然後

51:26

將它們泄露給《紐約時報》來反對我，上周我又發生了這種事，我想知道有多常見

51:34

那就是英特爾機構與所謂的主流媒體合作，例如

51:39

紐約時報要好好傷害他們的對手，這就是這些的作用

51:46

間質政府資助的非政府組織和智囊團，例如我們提到的

51:52

大西洋理事會是北約的智囊團，但阿斯彭研究所等其他團體也劃定了界限

51:57

其部分資金來自國務院和其他政府機構，你知道阿斯彭研究所被搗毀了

52:02

對亨特·拜登的筆記本電腦審查制度做同樣的事情，你知道你遇到了聯邦調查局曾經遇到過的奇怪情況

52:09

對即將出版的亨特·拜登筆記本電腦故事的深入了解，然後神奇地了解阿斯彭

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該研究所主要由前中央情報局、前國家安全局、前聯邦調查局和

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然後一堆民間社會組織都會舉行彌撒

52:29

呃利益相關者模擬審查制度模擬為期3天的呃會議你

52:34

知道這個消息出來了，Yol Roth 也在場，這是 Twitter 文件泄露的一個重要部分，並且在

52:40

多項國會調查，但不知怎的，阿斯彭研究所呃

52:45

基本上是國家安全國家的附錄呃得到了完全相同的

52:52

國家安全國家監視記者和政治人物的信息

52:58

獲得的數據不僅泄露了它，而且基本上在SE中做了一個聯合協調的審查模擬器

53:05

九月，選舉前兩個月，就像郵件和選票的審查一樣

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準備好對任何在網上放大新聞報道的人進行預審查

53:18

阿斯彭研究所甚至還沒有被破壞，所以我的意思是，這就是我度過的方式

53:23

我在華盛頓的生活有點像沃爾特·艾薩克森（Walter Isaacson），《時代周刊》前任總裁

53:30

CNN 嗯，我不知道它是國家安全國家的一部分，我不知道它的資金來自美國政府

53:36

你是，這是我第一次聽說，但假設你說的是真的，那就有點了

53:41

奇怪的是，沃爾特·艾薩克森離開阿斯普斯去寫埃隆·馬斯克的傳記

53:47

奇怪或不，是的，我是你知道的我不知道我我我沒有讀過那本書我

53:54

從我從人們那裡聽到的情況來看，這是一種相對公平的待遇，你只是完全猜測，但我懷疑

54:01

沃爾特·艾薩克森 (Walter Isaacson) 一直在努力解決這個問題，並且從某種意義上說，你甚至沒有牢牢地落在一個地方

54:08

你知道沃爾特·艾森的兒子對里克·斯潘格爾進行了一系列採訪呃

54:13

與大西洋理事會和其他場合呃，他專門採訪了里克·斯潘格爾（Rick Spangle）

54:19

呃你知道需要廢除第一修正案的問題

54:25

社交媒體上的言論自由對民主構成了威脅，當時我非常擔心這是在

54:31

2017 年和 2019 年，當他接受 Rick Spangle 採訪時，我非常擔心，因為艾薩克森表達了似乎

54:38

我對 Rick Spangle 抱有高度同情，呃，你知道的

54:43

現在他沒有正式認可這一立場，但這讓我非常感動

54:49

對艾薩克感到不安，但我應該說的是，當時我不認為

54:54

事實上，這個國家有很多人我幾乎不認識任何人，呃

55:00

你知道審查行業的建設和審查制度的兔子洞有多深嗎？

55:07

軍隊和國家安全國家的觸角有多深，以支撐和

55:13

坦率地說，整合其中的大部分內容直到呃才公開露面

55:18

直到去年，你坦率地說，其中一些是由 Twitter 文件中的埃隆·馬斯克 (Elon Musk) 收購和

55:24

眾議院共和黨人的更替使得這些多項調查得以進行，例如密蘇里州訴拜登案等訴訟

55:30

那裡的發現過程呃，你知道很多其他事情，比如虛假信息治理委員會，他們通過

55:36

你的臨時負責人 Nina Janowitz 的負責人是如何開始進入審查行業的

55:42

這個完全相同的秘密情報社區審查網絡是在 2014 年克里米亞事件後創建的

55:50

尼娜·賈諾維茨 (Nina Janowitz) 的情況，當她的名字在 2022 年作為一部分出現時

55:55

虛假信息治理委員會 我差點從椅子上摔下來，因為我已經跟蹤 Nina 的網絡近 5 年了

56:02

在那幾年，當她的名字作為英國一個被破獲的秘密組織的內部集群的一部分出現時

56:10

名為“誠信倡議”的互聯網傳感操作，由英國外交部創建，

56:17

在北約政治事務部的支持下開展這項工作

56:23

我們在這次對話開始時談到的事情是北約呃某種心理

56:29

接種呃呃消滅所謂的俄羅斯宣傳的能力或

56:35

希望與俄羅斯保持能源關係的新興政治團體

56:40

當美國試圖很好地扼殺北溪和其他管道關係時，他們做到了

56:46

Marine Leen Andina Janet 是這套服裝的一部分，然後誰是誰

56:52

尼娜·賈諾維茨（Nina Janowitz）倒台後，該部門的負責人是邁克爾·切爾托（Michael cherto），邁克爾·切爾托（Michael cherto）負責管理阿斯彭研究所網絡小組，然後這個和

57:00

阿斯彭研究所隨後成為亨特·拜登筆記本電腦故事的審查模擬器，然後兩年

57:05

後來，在尼娜被迫下台後，傑爾·奧夫 (Jer off) 成為了虛假信息治理委員會的負責人，是的，結束了

57:11

朋友們，當然，邁克爾·切爾托是海灣公司的董事長，抱歉，索爾，當然，邁克爾·喬夫是海灣公司的董事長。

57:18

是的，歐洲最大的軍事承包商呃Bae呃軍事

57:24

所以你在這次談話中多次讓我大吃一驚，談話結束後我需要立即小睡一下

57:31

我剛剛還有另外兩個問題要問你，一個簡短，一個長一點，一個簡短的問題是針對那些已經經歷過的人的。

57:36

已經一個小時了，想了解更多關於這個話題的信息，順便說一句，我希望你隨時回來

57:42

你有時間探索故事的不同線索，但對於那些想要對其進行研究的人來說

57:48

自己如何才能在互聯網上找到您對此的研究，所以我們的

57:55

基金會是自由的基金會 online.com 呃，我們以各種方式發布

58:00

關於審查行業各個方面的報告，從我們談論的角色來看

58:06

國家安全國家的軍工綜合體以及大學對你所做的事情你知道我

58:12

有時被稱為數字 MK Ultra，它基本上是審查科學的領域以及如何和

58:18

資助這些心理操縱方法來促使人們進入不同的信仰體系

58:24

他們對待新冠病毒的做法就像對待能源一樣，每一個敏感的政策問題都是他們本質上擁有的

58:31

雄心勃勃，但我的 Freedom online.com 網站基金會是一種方式，另一種方式就在 X 呃我的

58:38

負責人是 Mike Ben cyber，我在那裡非常活躍，呃發布了很多長格式

58:43

關於這一切的視頻和書面內容我認為這是當今世界上最重要的問題之一，所以它

58:48

當然，是並且因此直接且無縫地引導我的最後一個問題

58:54

這是關於 X 的，我這麼說不僅僅是因為我在那裡發布內容，但我客觀地認為這是最後一個大事件

59:00

平台是免費的，或者有點免費或更自由，你也在那裡發布，但是你

59:06

知道我們正處於選舉年的伊始，幾場不同的戰爭正在展開

59:12

同時，呃，到 2024 年，您認為 PL 平台能夠繼續存在嗎？

59:18

今年免費，它承受着非常非常大的壓力，而且這種壓力是

59:24

隨着選舉的臨近，埃隆·馬斯克（Elon Musk）將繼續增加

59:29

獨特的個人，他可能在涉及到時有獨特的緩衝

59:34

國家安全國家，因為國家安全國家非常依賴埃隆·馬斯克

59:42

屬性是否是針對呃電氣，你知道特斯拉的綠色革命

59:49

呃，還有 SpaceX 的電池技術，呃，國務院

59:54

非常依賴 SpaceX 呃，因為它令人難以置信的呃有點

1:00:02

在近地軌道衛星領域具有開拓性和飽和性

1:00:07

這基本上就是我們的電信系統運行的方式，比如星形鏈接，存在依賴關係

1:00:13

國家安全部門對埃隆·馬斯克的態度，我不確定如果他成為總統，他是否會有那麼多的談判空間

1:00:20

世界首富在檸檬水攤上賣你知道的，所以有

1:00:25

如果國家安全局援引諸如 cifas 之類的東西來對他採取過分嚴厲的措施

1:00:31

將其中一些財產國有化，我認為這將給國際投資者群體帶來的衝擊波將是無法挽回的

1:00:37

我們正在進行大國競爭，所以他們試圖殺死你，知道他們試圖誘導一種我

1:00:43

想想通過呃一系列涉及被紙割傷致死的事情來進行某種公司制度的改變我

1:00:50

認為有七八個不同的司法部或 SEC 或 FTC

1:00:55

對埃隆·馬斯克財產的調查都是在他收購 X 之後開始的，但後來呢？

1:01:02

他們現在正在嘗試做的就是我所說的跨大西洋側翼攻擊2.0，你知道我們在這個中討論過

1:01:08

關於審查制度如何真正開始的對話，當時一群國務院流亡者呃誰

1:01:14

我們期待促銷人員利用他們的特殊技能來迫使歐洲國家通過呃制裁

1:01:20

他們自己砍掉自己的腿來激怒自己呃通過對俄羅斯的制裁他們跑回來了

1:01:27

同樣的劇本，為審查而不是制裁進行路演，我們現在正在見證你知道跨大西洋

1:01:34

側翼攻擊 2.0 如果你願意的話這是因為他們已經失去了聯邦政府的很多權力

1:01:40

他們從 2018 年到 2022 年一直在進行同樣的審查操作，部分原因是眾議院已經完全轉變

1:01:47

對他們的批評，部分是因為媒體，部分是因為密蘇里州訴拜登贏得了扣籃案，實際上是班寧

1:01:53

政府對初審法院和上訴法院的審查現在介於最高法院和最高法院之間

1:01:59

現在採取兩種策略，其中之一是州級呃審查制度

1:02:05

法律 加州剛剛通過了一項新法律，審查行業從頭到尾完全圍繞該法律進行推動

1:02:11

要求他們稱之為“轉型平台”，你知道平台的責任感和透明度，這基本上是強制的

1:02:18

你知道埃隆·馬斯克（Elon Musk）會提供這些敘述性地圖數據

1:02:24

管道和五角大樓的切口被用來製造這些大規模交易的武器和這些審查的能力

1:02:30

一切都規模化，因為他們擁有所有內部平台數據，埃隆·馬斯克拿走了這些數據，他們正在使用州法律

1:02:35

就像加利福尼亞州的這項新法律來打破這個局面，但現在的主要威脅是來自歐洲的威脅

1:02:41

你知道有一個叫做歐盟數字服務法案的法案，它是與像這樣的人一起制定的

1:02:49

新聞衛士是由你知道的，其中有一個由中央情報局國家安全局局長邁克爾·海登（Michael Hayden）領導的四星將軍里克（Rick）的董事會

1:02:55

Spangle 就在那個板上，呃，你從國務院宣傳辦公室知道，湯姆·里奇 (Tom Ridge) 也在那個板上

1:03:00

國土安全部的董事會哦，安德斯·霧拉斯姆就在那個董事會上，呃，他是呃

1:03:06

奧巴馬政府領導下的北約秘書長，所以你有北約、中央情報局、國家安全局四星將軍國土安全部和

1:03:12

美國國務院與歐盟合作制定審查法

1:03:18

除了潛在的前廣告商抵制之外，對 X 來說是最大的生存威脅，因為現在

1:03:24

虛假信息現已作為法律問題在印度被禁止e 歐盟，對於 X 來說，歐盟是一個比美國更大的市場

1:03:31

美國只有 3 億人，歐洲有 4.5 億人 X 現在被迫遵守這項全新的法律

1:03:38

今年剛剛獲得批准，呃，他們要麼需要將全球年收入的 6% 上繳給歐盟，

1:03:45

在那裡維持運營或基本上以您所知道的方式實施

1:03:50

中情局碰碰車，如果你願意的話，我在整個過程中一直在描述它有一個內部機制

1:03:57

審查歐盟（只是北約的代理人）認為的任何內容

1:04:02

虛假信息，你可以打賭今年全球將有 65 場選舉，嗯，你可以預測

1:04:08

每次他們都會將虛假信息定義為現在的主要戰鬥是對付跨大西洋側翼

1:04:15

來自歐洲的襲擊 我已經說過五次了，但這只是我聽過的最引人注目的故事之一

1:04:20

我很感謝你把它帶給我們在線自由基金會的執行董事邁克·本，我希望

1:04:27

我們又見到你了，謝謝

1:04:33

塔克的言論自由比任何一個人或任何一個組織都更重要，社會是由他們的意願來定義的

1:04:39

不允許我們看到的是美德的完全顛倒

我的短評：

簡談西方的資產階級民主之一

無套褲漢於2024-02-18

羅莎·盧森堡（Rosa Luxemburg）在jpg附件中的語錄：“沒有社會主義就沒有民主，沒有民主就不會有社會主義。”

實行國家安全的國家——美國是審查和選舉干預的主要驅動力。 “我所描述的是軍事統治，”邁克·本茨（Mike Benz）說。 “這是民主的倒置。”

西方的資產階級民主註定會失敗，因為資產階級當權派的腐敗已經深入到其身體和靈魂深處，只有無產階級革命才能通過再次徹底地接受批評來拯救其殘餘。美國民主往何處去？

富人越來越富，但是窮人得到了什麼？ 民主！[Mark Wain 2024-02-16  https://www.youtube.com/@wtkh 

https://blog.creaders.net/u/12901/]

西方的資產階級民主註定會失敗，因為資產階級的當權派的腐敗已經深入到其身體和靈魂深處，只有無產階級革命才能通過再次徹底地接受批評來拯救其殘餘。美國民主往何處去？[Mark Wain 2024-02-16  https://www.youtube.com/@wtkh 

https://blog.creaders.net/u/12901/]

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