The Christians in TW and HK. They simply did nto get it: they are theoretically stupid.
The presberian church in TW deviated from its Reformed stance and pay too much stress on political issues. They contributed a lot to the political fiasco in TW while they should be the clear stream. Even for TW independence, a good polical system in TW will suffice their dream by distincting TW from mainland politicall and benefit the cultural circle of greater China.
HKers are only smart in money. They are stupid in very aspects except for money.