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送交者: Hesed 2006年08月08日16:43:58 於 [彩虹之約] 發送悄悄話

要知道雷克喬納的源頭問題,必須讀該書的序。作者許多的理念都不符聖經。

這有點象當年數學課推算公式,即使結果一樣,但只要過程不對,還是不對。


Prophet or Heretic? 先知或異端?
(譯者:freshwind 原載:彩虹之約論壇 http://67.15.48.205/rainbow/messages/290002.html)

Rick Joyner (雷克.喬納 《末日決戰》作者)是晨星宣教事工的領袖,許多當代有爭議的更新和復興運動的支持者認為他是一個"先知" 和/或"使徒" 。

其他人, 包括一些神學家, 衛道士和邪教監視者確實把Joyner看作他們周圍一個最無教益也是最危險的老師。他的充滿謬誤的, 非正統的教導包括(但不限於)現世國度(或統治) 的神學、聖經之外的啟示,以及否認耶穌基督身體的復活。

Rick Joyner 既不是一個真先知也不是使徒,因為他的教導錯誤百出。他看起來好象(在他的許多書中)把我們帶到更高的水平,而實際上他奪去了我們的教義遺產和聖經。他的統治論是虛假的烏托邦,而且他混淆基督復活作王與教會的現狀, 因此以虛幻的希望誤導基督徒。

Joyner所宣揚的啟示知識對渴慕聖經的人產生麻痹效果 [... ]。

Joyner的書混雜不堪。人們得除去很多糟粕才能得到片言真理。

CRN 雜誌認為Joyner 在搗弄"黑色神秘主義” 並且他們得出結論說: "Joyner 不許我們折衷。要麼我們把他當作上帝揀選的末世的超級先知, 要麼我們得把他當着一個為魔鬼的謊言所束縛的人並希望我們這樣揭露他''

Joyner的假預言無處不在。例如:

在90 年代晚期, Joyner 跳上“千年蟲”(Y2K)的馬車,他聲稱主將要就這事"發最後通牒'' 。

根據Joyner的說法, 上帝將要啟示說“最嚴重的困難將來自因這種事態引起的恐慌'' 並且“主告訴我要把因千年蟲在世上引起的問題當着我們在基督身體產生的問題的反映來看待'' ;

因此根據Joyner的啟示,教會肯定不會有問題,因為千年蟲是件不存在的事。

這裡有一個典型的Joyner/Jones 預言,發生在1997 年12月31 日這一天(RealAudio) 。它包括那類在今天的所謂更新和復興運動中流行的審判預言(例如說洛杉基將被地震和核彈剷平; 密西西比河將變成35 英哩寬...),檢查暗示日期和時間表等(九個月: 這種運動總是談論聖靈感孕、聖靈出生等。其中一種啟示看起來和聽起來都象某人誕生) 。

請注意當時Joyner是在他東海岸的"摩們社區'' 作房產生意。

先知? 使徒? 或超級使徒?

象其它在更新/復興運動前沿和後陣的領袖一樣, Joyner 很少提到他自己是先知。但是, 這些領袖彼此都稱對方為使徒和先知-- 當然他們也肯定不勸阻他們的追隨者這麼稱呼他們。

在他的"收穫 "一書中, Joyner 說道:

將要降臨地上的不只是一種復興, 或另一種喚醒;那是一次確實的革命。異象是為了喚醒那些註定給世界走向帶來根本性改變,甚至重新定義基督教的人。折除一些組織並遣散一些事工對於主忠實的僕人來說將是正面而興奮的經驗。一支由先知、老師、牧師和使徒組成的大軍將隨非尼哈(民數記25:1-8 )的靈興起...

自私的幻覺

儘管Joyner的教義聲明相當標準, 我們將看到他的作品和書籍在許多地方都與其教義相矛盾並對其教義起破壞作用。人們可能會懷疑他教義的聲明是否僅僅是裝飾和遮羞的窗戶; 或者是否他對於那種他被視為教會優秀肢體的運動的忠誠把他遠遠地拋離了一個更為穩定和正統的根基。Joyner 就象一位兒童音樂家,在一些好的音符中演奏着許多酸不溜楸的音調而告訴我們他是個有成就的天才。當我們不同意他時, 他會叫我們注意那些好的音符。Joyner的號角是離譜的,發出"不定的號聲'' (哥林多前書14:7-8 。如果他住在舊約時代,他早都被石頭打死了(申命記13:1-5,18:20-22))。[...]

Joyner 毫無羞恥地鼓吹他的最古怪而且是最不切實際的思想: “在不久的將來,當教會回想起第一世紀的初期教會時,不再對那時的成就充滿嫉妒的,而是所有人都會說上帝已經把他最好的釀酒留到最後。歷史上最榮耀的時刻即將來到我們身邊。你這夢想着有一天能與彼得、約翰和保羅交談的,你將驚訝地發現他們正在等着和你說話! 你被揀選是要看到收穫,看到他們播下種子所結的果子”

Joyner 是那麼大膽以至於他宣稱萬民將被最新任命的使徒所左右,並且“在超出任何最壯觀的聖經神跡的神機奇事將導致萬民承認耶穌...

Joyner 有二個主要的迷惑人的論點,即“先知恢復”和“使徒恢復”。他是這樣解釋它們的:

"一次新的宣教浪潮將伴隨着非同尋常的先知恩賜即將來到。其他一些具有啟示恩賜而一度爭論和其它問題所誤導偏離的人將要回到輕捷的正路上來... 開啟教會時代的使徒宣教事工最終將被提升並完全。主正在恢復教會使徒的權柄並且不久這將成為一個主要焦點。當真正具有使徒權柄並過着使徒生活的人掌握領導權時,這種局面才能得到真正普遍地打開。”

很明顯以上程序中 Joyner的話沒有任何聖經的證據。他的自私的幻覺缺乏聖經證明。以弗所人很清楚教會是建造在."使徒和先知的根基上的'(以弗所書2:19) 。為什麼上帝要重新建造根基呢 ? 教會自保羅時代以來就被描述為"神建造的房屋'' (哥林多前書 3:1-10) 。一座房屋,特別是上帝的教會, 是不需要其它根基的。難怪 Joyner 沒有為他的宏偉藍圖提供聖經依據 。

許多參與更新和復興運動說Joyner 和其它老師告訴他們說我們在聖經中精確地找到一切教會中目前正在發生的事,因為上帝在成就"新事情''。 Joyner並且預言將會有''超級使徒''。這些使徒被認為對執行上帝正在做的“新事情”是必需的。因此要鼓勵督徒徒對這些運動不要論斷,明辨或甚至為那些教導禱告。向參與寫聖經的老使徒一樣,新的“超級使徒”畢竟不會誤導你的...是吧?

Joyner 阻止明辨

毫不奇怪, 作為一位假老師, Rick Joyner 不僅自己缺乏明辨,並且當談到應用聖經智慧原則時,他強烈勸阻基督徒順服聖經。他設法平息對他的宣教事工,教導和/或他所支持的運動和教義等的批評,暗示說批評就是他所謂的“耶洗別的靈”或“宗教的靈”在作怪。

即使你自由地去判斷先知和先知的信息,你也被標上"法利賽人 '' 的標記,或更糟,說你擁有''宗教''和''耶洗別靈”PFO 的主任Steve Cannon 指出Joyner的文章中一個新近出現的主題,一個叫作“二次宣教”的概念。Joyner把二次宣教的第二次描述為"找錯誤”,並且說它們是破壞性的力量。Cannon指出"這一教義...我認為是用來嚇唬任何批評者,使他們相信他們這樣做是在撒旦的靈下工作的”

Joyner 為了逃脫責任並不就此罷休:

他走得更遠,Joyner 警告說對邪教的研究是危險的所以不應當進行。這肯定能把明辯從他那根除。因為在聖經中有諸多的對假宗教和異端的警告(例如,約翰1書4:1中的“試驗諸靈”), Joyner的話是輕率和愚蠢的:

“那些致力於研究邪教和異端教義的人很少能夠辨明主真正的話語的,通常他們的心立刻為那種他們企圖揭露的邪惡所抹黑了。我們將為我們所看見的所改變(哥林多後書3:18)。在主給推雅推喇教會的關於“曉得撒但深奧之理” (啟示錄 2:24)的信息中暗含着警告。我們越是注意錯誤,或者魔鬼的作為,我們自己就越會本質上變成我們看到的東西。”


因此根據Joyner的看法,一個明辨者--或一個庇哩亞人(使徒行傳17:11)--將會走向黑暗。那正是耶和華見證人所說的與文學相脫離的研經---耶和華見證人也勸阻任何形式的明辨。這再一次表明Joyner看上去更象一個邪教徒而不是基督徒。

而且在上述引文中,Joyner 表現他可怕地處理上帝的話的另一個例子。推雅推喇人不“(通過經驗)曉得撒但深奧之理。”---這上下文來看指的是偶像崇拜和姦淫 (啟示錄2:20),正是因為他們有辨明能力!他們沒有行這些事因為他們能辯明這些事邪惡的本質並迴避它們。曉得撒但深奧之理並不是研究諸如Joyner那樣的假老師而是實踐(通過經驗得知)並推崇淫亂和偶像崇拜。

一個異化, 非正統和異端教導的支持者

Joyner 說道:

我從來不屬於葡萄園派,儘管我有幾次幫助組織葡萄園國際會議並且很欣賞他們,我從來不是起源於堪薩斯城的那個運動的一 部分, 儘管 我很尊重他們。

Rick Joyner 實際上, 推崇"堪薩斯城先知們" 的教導和預言, 並且出版Bob Jones的預言,用他自 己的評論和/或闡明介紹或解釋那些預言(例如,牧者之杖的預言)

他推崇遲來的雨和顯明的上帝后裔神學, 並聲稱從顯明的上帝后裔中"超級使徒" (“35個保羅”)將產生。

一種正被變本加厲地推崇的教義是他的共協基督的教義。他認為教會(實際上是"余民",即那些接受“上帝新觸動”的人) 本身在征服並統治地上後將變成基督。

他在他的"收穫" 一書中說道:

“門徒被提的教義是仇敵向教會灌輸隱退思想的高明而有效的詭計,但它不會成功的。其實這軛已經被前沿教會扔掉,不久將會被所有教會拋棄

Joyner的"最後的追尋”應該根據以上思路來讀。在書中Joyner提到他的一個持續的'異象 '',他聲稱他是在一個夢中得到的。在1995 年初他以“群魔在前進”為題在晨星啟示公報和晨星雜誌上以壓縮本形式發表了他的第一個夢。那兩篇文章都能在他網頁上找到。

後來他又發表了兩篇壓縮本的後繼異象,三篇文章一起都可在這找到。

(他的異象很象Bob Jones所傳遞的異象。象Jones一樣,他被提到天上,看到一些事,得到一些解釋,並且被告知他在靈性上是何等敏銳聰慧等等。)

Joyner 說這些變成了晨星從未出版過得最暢銷的讀物。所以他決定以書的形式出版, 並包括了完整的異象的版本,增加了兩章, 並且以“待續... " 結束。

“最後的追尋”討論的是Joyner在異象中看到的是一個正在進行着的那些支持“上帝觸動”者與反對者之間的爭戰。在joyner看來,那些發對“觸動” 者組成了群魔。而joyner支持的“上帝觸動”者是“多倫多恩福”派和類似的更新和復興運動。反對“上帝正在做的新事情”你會有麻煩對的...因此 Joyner的“最後的追尋”異象為他的“教會的內戰”異象提供了一個很酷的背景。

結論

根據許多有關Rick Joyner的假預言, 非聖經和非正統的教導, 聖經之外的啟示、不負責任,以及其它問題的持續紀錄, “護教索引“ 出版者強烈警告不要參與 Rick Joyner 和晨星的事工。

(英文連接 http://www.apologeticsindex.org/j08.html)

原文:

Prophet or Heretic?
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/j08.html


Rick Joyner heads Morningstar Ministries Many supporters of today's controversial Renewal and Revival movements consider him to be a "prophet" and/or "apostle".

Others, including theologians, apologists and cult watchers, rightly consider Joyner to by one the most unsound and dangerous teachers around. His error-filled, unorthodox teachings include (but are not limited to) Kingdom Now (or Dominion) theology, extra-biblical revelation, and the denial of the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ.


Rick Joyner is neither a true prophet nor apostle. He teaches too much error to be either. He holds out (by his many books) an appearance of taking us to higher ground when in reality he robs us of a rich doctrinal heritage as well as the Bible. His dominionism is false and utopian and he confuses the resurrection and reign of Christ with the present state of the Church, thereby misleading Christians with false hope.

Joyner's claims of revelation knowledge produce a dulling effect in regard to a desire for the ????ures.
[...]

Joyner's books are a jumble of confusion. One has to wade through a lot of sludge to find a few nuggets of truth.

The CRN Journal says that Joyner is peddling a ''dark mysticism'' and they conclude:
''Joyner leaves us no middle way. Either we treat him as God's chosen super-prophet for the end-times, or we treat him as a man in the grip of evil deceit and seek to expose him as such''
Source: The Higher Life of Rick Joyner: Chasing the Delusion of Power and Dominion, The Quarterly Journal, October-December 2000, page 14-15


Examples of Joyner's false prophecies abound. For example:


In the late 1990s, Joyner jumped onto the Y2K bandwagon as he claimed that the Lord ''finally did begin to speak'' about the issue. According to Joyner, God supposedly revealed that, ''The most severe difficulties will come from the panic generated by the situation'' and '' The Lord told me to observe the problems that Y2K will cause in the natural world as a reflection of the problems we have in the body of Christ.''

Thus according to Joyner's revelation the Church must not have had problems since Y2K was a non-event.
Source: The Higher Life of Rick Joyner: Chasing the Delusion of Power and Dominion, The Quarterly Journal, October-December 2000, page 6


Typical of the Joyner/Jones prophecies is this December 31, 1997 this one (RealAudio). It includes the type of judgement prophecies that have become popular in today's so-called renewal and revival movements (e.g. LA is to be leveled by earthquakes AND nuclear bombs; the Mississipi will be 35 miles wide...). Check the date, and the time-schedules hinted at. (Nine months: this movement is always talking about spiritual pregnancy, things born in the spirit, etc. One of the manifestations looks and sounds like someone giving birth).

Note that at the time, Joyner was selling cabins at his East Coast ''Moravian community.'' (Morningstar Prophetic Bulletin, April, 1998)

Prophets? Apostles? Super-Apostles?


Like other leaders in the fore- and background of the controversial renewal/revival movements, Joyner rarely refers to himself as a prophet. However, these leaders refer to each other as apostles and prophets - and certainly do not discourage their followers from addressing them as such.

In his book "The Harvest," Joyner says:


What is about to come upon the earth is not just a revival, or another awakening; it is a veritable revolution. The vision was given in order to begin to awaken those who are destined to radically change the course, and even the very definition of Christianity. The dismantling of organizations and disbanding of some works will be a positive and exhilarating experience for the Lord's faithful servants. A great company of prophets, teachers, pastors and apostles will be raised up with the spirit of Phineas...

Self-serving Illusion


Though Joyner's doctrinal statement is a rather standard one, we will see that in many places his writings and books contradict and undermine it. One can only wonder if his doctrinal statement is merely window dressing and subterfuge; or if perhaps his allegiance to a movement which views itself as a superlative extension of the Church has moved him aways from a more stable and orthodox foundation. Joyner is like a child musician playing many sour notes with the good ones while telling us he is an accomplished prodigy. When we object, he will call attention to the few good notes. Joyner's trumpet is offkey and giving out an ''uncertain sound'' (1 Corinthians 14:7-8 . Had he lived in the Old Testament era, he would have been stoned by now (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 , 18:20-22 )

Joyner unabashedly promotes his most bizarre and unrealistic ideas this way:
''In the near future the church will not be looking back at the first century church with envy because of the great exploits of those days, but all will be saying that He certainly did save His best wine for last. The most glorious times in all of history have now come upon us. You who have dreamed of one day being able to talk with Peter, John and Paul are going to be surprised to find that they have all been waiting to talk to you! You have been chosen to see the harvest, the fruit of the seed that they were planting.''
Joyner is so bold as to state that nations will be overwhelmed by the newly appointed apostles and that ''Miracles which exceed even some of the most spectacular biblical marvels will cause whole nations to acknowledge Jesus ... The appearances of angels will be so common that they will cease to be related as significant events. The Lord himself will appear to councils of apostles and elders to give them directives.''
[...]

Joyner has two major obsessions: ''Prophetic Restoration'' and ''Apostolic Restoration.'' He explains these as follows:
''A new wave of ministries is about to be released with extraordinary prophetic gifts. Others with revelatory gifting who were sidetracked because of controversy, or other problems, are about to get back on the fast track ... The apostolic ministry that opened the church age will be raised up at the end to complete it. The Lord is restoring the apostolic authority of the church and soon this will become a major emphasis. There will be almost a general openness to this as men of true apostolic authority, with a true apostolic lifestyle, take their place in leadership.''
Glaringly absent from Joyner's agenda is any biblical warrant for his words. There is no ????ure offered as proof for this self-serving illusion. Ephesians is clear that the Church is built on ''the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets.'' (Ephesians 2:19 ). Why would God have to lay the foundation all over again? The Church, since the time of Paul, is described as ''God's building. '' (1 Corinthians 3:91-10 ). A building, especially God's Church, is not in need of another foundation. No wonder Joyner gives not ????ure for his grandiose imaginings.
Source: The Higher Life of Rick Joyner: Chasing the Delusion of Power and Dominion, The Quarterly Journal, October-December 2000, page 7


Many people involved in the renewal and revival movements have reported that they are told, by Joyner and other teachers, that we can not find everything that's currently happening in the church in ????ure precisely because God is doing a ''new thing.'' Instead, Joyner has prophesied that there will be ''super apostles.'' These apostles are said to be needed to administer the ''new thing'' God is doing. Thus Christians are encouraged to not judge, discern, or even pray about the teachings within these movements. After all, like the apostles of old, who participated in writing ????ure before, the new ''super-apostles'' won't steer you wrong... would they?

Joyner Discourages Discernment


Not surprisingly, as a false teacher, Rick Joyner not only lacks discernment himself, but also strongly discourages Christians from obeying ????ure when it talks about applying biblical principles of discernment. He tries to silence critics of his ministry and teachings and/or the movements and doctrines he supports by suggesting that critics have what he terms a ''Jezebel spirit,'' or ''religious spirit.''


Even if one takes the liberty to judge the prophet and his message, you are labeled a ''pharisee,'' or worse yet possess a ''religious'' and ''Jezebel spirit.'' PFO director Steve Cannon points out a recurrent theme is Joyner's writings, a concept called ''The Two Ministries.'' Joyner describes the second of the two ministries as ''faultfinders'' and says they are a destructive force.'' Cannon maintains, ''This doctrine ... is used, I think, to intimidate any who may criticize, into thinking that by doing so, they are operating under the spirit of Satan.''
Source: The Higher Life of Rick Joyner: Chasing the Delusion of Power and Dominion, The Quarterly Journal, October-December 2000, page 6


Joyner doesn't stop there in his efforts to escape accountability:


Still going further afield, Joyner warns that cult research is dangerous and ought not be be pursued. This would surely keep the discerning off his case. As much warning as there is in the Bible against false religions and heresies (e.g. ''test the spirits,'' 1 John 4:1 ), Joyner's words are ill-advised and foolish:
''Few who devote themselves to studying cults or deviant doctrines are able to distinguish the true word of the Lord, and usually their hearts are immediately darkened by the very evil they seek to expose. We will be changed into that which we are beholding (II Corinthians 3:18 ). There is an implied warning in the Lord's message to the church in Thyatira about 'knowing the deep things of Satan' (Revelation 2:24) . The more we focus on what is wrong, or the practices of the evil one, the more we, ourselves, will be changed into the nature of what we are seeing.''
Thus, according to Joyner, to be discerning - to be a Berean - is to go into darkness. That's what Jehovah's Witnesses say of Bible study apart from their literature - they too discourage any type of discernment. Once again Joyner sounds more cultic than Christian.

Moreover, in the above citation, Joyner demonstrates yet another example of his frightful handling of God's Word. The people of Thyatira did not ''know [know by experience] the depths of Satan,'' which in the context was idolatry and sexual immorality (Revelation 2:20 , simply because they were discerning! They did not practice these things since they were able to discern their evil nature and avoid them. Knowing the depth os Satan is not the study of false teachers like Joyner but the practice (knowing by experience) and promotion of immorality and idolatry.
Source: The Higher Life of Rick Joyner: Chasing the Delusion of Power and Dominion, The Quarterly Journal, October-December 2000, page 12

A Supporter of Aberrant, Unorthodox and Heretical Teachings


Joyner says:


I have never been part of the Vineyard, though I did minister at Vineyard conferences a few times, and have always appreciated them. I have never been a part of the movement that originated in Kansas City, though I have the highest regard for them.
Rick Joyner


He does, in fact, promote the teachings and prophecies of the "Kansas City Prophets", and publishes the prophecies of Bob Jones, introducing or interspersing them with his own comments and/or clarifications. See, for example, the Shepherd's Rod prophecies.

He promotes Latter Rain and Manifest Sons of God theology, and claims that from among the Manifest Sons of God "super-apostles" ("35 Pauls") will be created.

One doctrine increasingly promoted is that of the Corporate Christ where the Church itself (actually, a "Remnant" = those who now accept the "new move of God") becomes Christ the moment it subdues and rules the earth. In his book "The Harvest" he says:


The doctrine of the rapture was a great and effective ruse of the enemy to implant in the church a retreat mentality, but it will not succeed. Already this yoke has been cast off by the majority in the advancing church and it will soon be cast off by all...
Rick Joyner, The Harvest, 1989/1990 revised booklet on pg.121, as quoted at Let Us Reason

The Final Quest


Joyner's book "The Final Quest" should be read in light of that view. In the book, Joyner relates an ongoing ''vision,'' which he claims to have received in a dream. In early 1995 he published a condensed version of the first dream in his Morningstar Prophetic Bulletin and The Morningstar Journal under the title "The Hordes of Hell Are Marching". Both publications are found at his site

Later he published two additional condensed versions of subsequent visions. The three together are found here

(The vision sounds much like those relayed by Bob Jones. Like Jones, Joyner is taken into the heavenlies, shown things, has things explained to him, is told how spiritually astute and wise he is, etc.)


Joyner says these became the most popular writings Morningstar had ever published. Therefore, he decided to publish them in a book, and to include to full versions. Two more sections were added, and the book ends with "To be continued..."

The Final Quest is about Joyner's vision on what he sees is the war is now underway between those who support the "move of God" and those who oppose it. Those who oppose the "move" as seen by joyner, comprise the hordes of hell. The "move of God" Joyner supports is the Toronto Blessing and similar renewal and revival movements. Oppose this 'new thing God is doing' and you're in trouble... Thus Joyner's "Final Quest" vision provides a chilling background to his "Civil War in the Church" vision.

Conclusion


Given Rick Joyner's ongoing record of false prophecies, unbiblical and unorthodox teachings, extra-biblical revelation, lack of accountability, and other problems, the publisher of Apologetics Index strongly warns against involvement with Rick Joyner and Morningstar Ministries.

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