"Knowing Jesus Christ and known by him,This is all we need."

“奉獻的意義在於，承認自己一切的所有都是神所賜的，而甘心樂意把得到的一部分奉獻。”
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twofaces: help needed, please!

Hi, I need help. Please reply honestly, without hiding.

I lost my job several times in these two years (IT software), and one day I find one, and I hope GOD can help out of the circle: find a job and lose the job. So I asked the priest to pray GOD for me. Because of some reason, I finally did not get a job.

I did not pay 10 percentage of my salary to GOD. At this time, I pay more that 10 percentage or pay some money from my saving to GOD as donation to church, and hope GOD help me out of this, and to test GOD's word: because:

瑪 拉 基 書 Malachi:

3:10[hgb]萬軍之耶和華說、你們要將當納的十分之一、全然送入倉庫、使我家有糧、以此試試我、是否為你們敞開天上的窗戶、傾福與你們、甚至無處可容。

Let your tenths come into the store-house so that there may be food in my house, and put me to the test by doing so, says the Lord of armies, and see if I do not make the windows of heaven open and send down such a blessing on you that there is no room for it.

My brother and systers told me this. And this is the only place we can test GOD's Words. Can I do that?
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852：Surely you can. But,Why do you want to do this?
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twofaces：help needed, please!

I want to know GOD words, because all I saw in recent months are not what I want to know.

I believe all people are not bad people (No Good people no bad people from BUddist). I think GOD let me to know there are too many evils in this real world.Priest told us People in USA or American people have two faces and there are too many evils (MO GUI in Chinese) in this real world. I do not accept this.

I read the bible several times (even without eating 3 days to read it).I do not want I become a Christian because of Jobless. I want to know the truth. I pledged to be Christian. I asked people in Church to pray for me. And I said if I become a Christian, I would like to be Priest.

I will officially accept it. I prayed lots of things, but too many difficult encountered me. Especially in spirit. I would like to pray GOD whether what I experienced are that GOD let me to know.I will witness my I experienced if after this.

My experience I will say may not be good for some one taste, but it is from my heart. Because we must heart and honest to accept GOD.
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852：Knowing Jesus Christ and known by him,This is all we need. Trust Jesus Christ and follow him only.God bless you.
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Bach: 又一個把基督當菩薩拜的? 嘆氣.
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誠之: Bach兄，你到底信不信基督？如果不信，恐怕沒你說話的份。

“君子素其位而行，不慕乎其外”
“不在其位，不謀其政”
“非其鬼而祭之，諂也”
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yuanyin: 先信靠他,讓他做你的主那時,神的恩典臨到,你不會再如此焦慮.神不是做生意的.奉獻是憑着信的心.俺會為你的工作禱告.
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羅七: 你在神眼中是無價的我看到你自稱是loser的時候，心中很難受，眼淚忍不住要掉下來。沒有工作，對男人的打擊不僅僅是在經濟上的，更嚴重的是心理上的，讓人的自我價值極度降低。我也有段時間找不到工作，自憐的時候也稱自己作loser.

不過這也不完全壞。至少我們可以到神面前，了解我們的價值不是取決於我們掙多少錢，有多少能力，而是我們本來就是神所寶貴的，神按着我們的本相來愛我們，即使連我們自己都不愛自己了。

你回想一下過去兩年裡，雖然困難重重，但是依然能夠生活，沒有餓死；更重要的，還有人不因為你沒有工作而不愛你，也許你會發現你跟某些人的關係更好了，比如你的父母兄弟姐妹。

關於十一奉獻。奉獻的意義在於，承認自己一切的所有都是神所賜的，而甘心樂意把得到的一部分奉獻。奉獻不是因為神缺這錢，而是要表達我們的感激和順服。在奉獻的過程中得益處的不是神，(因為神一無所缺)，而是我們，我們會發現神照着他的應許(瑪拉基書3：10)賜更多的福氣給我們，讓我們可以不再害怕沒有錢，不再依靠不定的錢財，而依靠賜錢財給我們的神。

Bach兄說的對，奉獻不是跟神作交易，我給你點錢，你給我工作；奉獻是全心依靠神。

不過你所作的奉獻，神還是會接納的，因為你表現出了對神話語的極大信心，這信心在神眼裡是極寶貴的。你若在奉獻的時候也獻上你的感激和信靠，神必定照他的應許報答你。你教會的弟兄姐妹說的對，神讓我們試試他，我們就憑信心試試他罷。
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Joshua：羅兄講的很好其實人不遇到困境，往往就不知道自己是誰，苦難和困境就象一面鏡子，照出人的本相來，當人以神來的信心面對自己的本相時，就有希望了。
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Yuehanmiao：“雙面人”兄, 我建議你在信耶穌以前,千萬不要為教會捐錢,因為你連耶穌都沒信,給屬於耶穌的教會捐錢,沒道理呀,別人給你指的那段試驗上帝的經文絕對不是對你的情況寫的,為什麼我這麼勸你呢?因為我怕你掉入陷阱,如果你捐了,沒得到回報,可能讓你不再信'神真實地存在',如果得到了回報,你還會更大的投入,把你引到更大的試探,遲早你會走到沒得到回報,讓你不再信'神真實地存在',因此,你進到一個必毀滅的路里.

因此,我建議,思考信仰問題不要和找工作那樣聯繫起來。
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twofaces：Thank you very much.

I do not know the results. I am waiting for the result. If life is white or black, it may be gray.

No logic, no think. just directly from Heart and honest.

I am not a greedy man, just working life
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