"Knowing Jesus Christ and known by him,This is all we need."

“奉献的意义在於，承认自己一切的所有都是神所赐的，而甘心乐意把得到的一部分奉献。”
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twofaces: help needed, please!

Hi, I need help. Please reply honestly, without hiding.

I lost my job several times in these two years (IT software), and one day I find one, and I hope GOD can help out of the circle: find a job and lose the job. So I asked the priest to pray GOD for me. Because of some reason, I finally did not get a job.

I did not pay 10 percentage of my salary to GOD. At this time, I pay more that 10 percentage or pay some money from my saving to GOD as donation to church, and hope GOD help me out of this, and to test GOD's word: because:

玛 拉 基 书 Malachi:

3:10[hgb]万军之耶和华说、你们要将当纳的十分之一、全然送入仓库、使我家有粮、以此试试我、是否为你们敞开天上的窗户、倾福与你们、甚至无处可容。

Let your tenths come into the store-house so that there may be food in my house, and put me to the test by doing so, says the Lord of armies, and see if I do not make the windows of heaven open and send down such a blessing on you that there is no room for it.

My brother and systers told me this. And this is the only place we can test GOD's Words. Can I do that?
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852：Surely you can. But,Why do you want to do this?
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twofaces：help needed, please!

I want to know GOD words, because all I saw in recent months are not what I want to know.

I believe all people are not bad people (No Good people no bad people from BUddist). I think GOD let me to know there are too many evils in this real world.Priest told us People in USA or American people have two faces and there are too many evils (MO GUI in Chinese) in this real world. I do not accept this.

I read the bible several times (even without eating 3 days to read it).I do not want I become a Christian because of Jobless. I want to know the truth. I pledged to be Christian. I asked people in Church to pray for me. And I said if I become a Christian, I would like to be Priest.

I will officially accept it. I prayed lots of things, but too many difficult encountered me. Especially in spirit. I would like to pray GOD whether what I experienced are that GOD let me to know.I will witness my I experienced if after this.

My experience I will say may not be good for some one taste, but it is from my heart. Because we must heart and honest to accept GOD.
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852：Knowing Jesus Christ and known by him,This is all we need. Trust Jesus Christ and follow him only.God bless you.
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Bach: 又一个把基督当菩萨拜的? 叹气.
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诚之: Bach兄，你到底信不信基督？如果不信，恐怕没你说话的份。

“君子素其位而行，不慕乎其外”
“不在其位，不谋其政”
“非其鬼而祭之，谄也”
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yuanyin: 先信靠他,让他做你的主那时,神的恩典临到,你不会再如此焦虑.神不是做生意的.奉献是凭着信的心.俺会为你的工作祷告.
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罗七: 你在神眼中是无价的我看到你自称是loser的时候，心中很难受，眼泪忍不住要掉下来。没有工作，对男人的打击不仅仅是在经济上的，更严重的是心理上的，让人的自我价值极度降低。我也有段时间找不到工作，自怜的时候也称自己作loser.

不过这也不完全坏。至少我们可以到神面前，了解我们的价值不是取决于我们挣多少钱，有多少能力，而是我们本来就是神所宝贵的，神按着我们的本相来爱我们，即使连我们自己都不爱自己了。

你回想一下过去两年里，虽然困难重重，但是依然能够生活，没有饿死；更重要的，还有人不因为你没有工作而不爱你，也许你会发现你跟某些人的关系更好了，比如你的父母兄弟姐妹。

关于十一奉献。奉献的意义在於，承认自己一切的所有都是神所赐的，而甘心乐意把得到的一部分奉献。奉献不是因为神缺这钱，而是要表达我们的感激和顺服。在奉献的过程中得益处的不是神，(因为神一无所缺)，而是我们，我们会发现神照着他的应许(玛拉基书3：10)赐更多的福气给我们，让我们可以不再害怕没有钱，不再依靠不定的钱财，而依靠赐钱财给我们的神。

Bach兄说的对，奉献不是跟神作交易，我给你点钱，你给我工作；奉献是全心依靠神。

不过你所作的奉献，神还是会接纳的，因为你表现出了对神话语的极大信心，这信心在神眼里是极宝贵的。你若在奉献的时候也献上你的感激和信靠，神必定照他的应许报答你。你教会的弟兄姐妹说的对，神让我们试试他，我们就凭信心试试他罢。
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Joshua：罗兄讲的很好其实人不遇到困境，往往就不知道自己是谁，苦难和困境就象一面镜子，照出人的本相来，当人以神来的信心面对自己的本相时，就有希望了。
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Yuehanmiao：“双面人”兄, 我建议你在信耶稣以前,千万不要为教会捐钱,因为你连耶稣都没信,给属于耶稣的教会捐钱,没道理呀,别人给你指的那段试验上帝的经文绝对不是对你的情况写的,为什么我这么劝你呢?因为我怕你掉入陷阱,如果你捐了,没得到回报,可能让你不再信'神真实地存在',如果得到了回报,你还会更大的投入,把你引到更大的试探,迟早你会走到没得到回报,让你不再信'神真实地存在',因此,你进到一个必毁灭的路里.

因此,我建议,思考信仰问题不要和找工作那样联系起来。
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twofaces：Thank you very much.

I do not know the results. I am waiting for the result. If life is white or black, it may be gray.

No logic, no think. just directly from Heart and honest.

I am not a greedy man, just working life
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