看到井蛙朋友坦然承认自己从基督教会转到摩门教会聚会后，有很多网友本着爱真理和人灵魂的心与井蛙朋友对话。下面将这方面的对话收集在一起，但愿对我们如何帮助有类似问题的人有益处。第一次尝试整理网友讨论，还不是很熟练，有不当的地方请指正。调整的地方是：将回答的人的标题移到内容的前面，这样读起来更顺畅。另外，没有完全按照时间顺序整理，而是大概按照不同的话题整理。

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送交者: j9 2012月03月16日09:47:25 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:真的。一年多了，已经获得了去圣殿的资格。上月底 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 07:50:34

不知道是什么引你入的摩门教。摩门最主要的问题
是不承认主耶稣是神。这是问题的核心。其他都是烟幕。不要再受骗了。

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送交者: Joshua 2012月03月16日10:10:43 于 [彩虹之约] 发送悄悄话
回答:引我入摩门教的是他们言行一致，严格遵守耶稣的教导，不虚伪。 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 09:59:15

我相信你说的他们有“好行为”
但“好行为”“不虚伪”不能代你到永生。
他们的好行为比圣经里的法力赛人如何?
可见你是因“人”而信不是因为“真理”本身.

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送交者: Joshua 2012月03月16日10:03:01 于 [彩虹之约] 发送悄悄话
回答:这是彻底的谎言。耶稣是神！我们的救赎主。请不要再散布谣言了。 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 09:54:13

check this:

JESUS

(christian)  Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (Isaiah 7:14; Matt. 1:23). (mormon)"The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115). "Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 547). (Christian) Jesus is the eternal Son. He is second person of the Trinity. He has two natures. He is God in flesh and man (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2;9) and the creator of all things (Col. 1:15-17). (mornon) Jesus is the literal spirit-brother of Lucifer, a creation (Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15).

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送交者: 以西缅 2012月03月16日15:45:43 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:我挺想了解的，为啥同一本书分出这许多？！ 由 badguy 于2012-03-16 10:51:35

不是同一本书，摩门经是在圣经之外又加的一本书

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送交者: j9 2012月03月16日10:22:12 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:耶稣是上帝的儿子。 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 10:08:04

看来你看到问题的关键了。耶稣到底是谁？
主耶稣是天父的儿子是什么意思？这是表示他和天父的同等荣耀，同等权柄，同等圣洁公义，是自有永有的神。耶稣说： “我与父原为一”。你接受吗？

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送交者: j9 2012月03月16日11:08:15 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:跟我们教会的教导没什么区别。去圣殿前被审查的问题 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 10:44:44

问题在于你所理解和被教导的“神”和“救主”

和神和救主的真正意思不同。佛教也讲行善，耶和华见证人也有救主，共产党组织也很严密，犹太人之间也很互助，但真理只在圣经中。摩门教的人没有说过 圣经是“corrupted",只有摩门经最正确吗？没有说过基督是某位天父的妻子和天父所生的吗？那你信的大概不是摩门教。或者摩门教又有了新的启示？

我贴两个帖子，一个是关于摩门经的，一个是关于基督的：

http://www.equip.org/articles/is-the-book-of-mormon-credible-

http://www.jonahome.net/files/GODSWORD/shenxue/SYSTEMAT_ALL/V4_Christ.htm

愿主耶稣得到你，奉主耶稣基督的名，阿门！

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送交者: j9 2012月03月16日11:26:21 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:问题在于你所理解和被教导的“神”和“救主” 由 j9 于2012-03-16 11:08:15

This article first appeared in the Ask Hank column of the Christian Research Journal, volume 28, number 3 (2005). For further information or to subscribe to the Christian Research Journal go to: http://www.equip.org

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” (Gal. 1:6–9 NIV).

In 1823, the angel Moroni allegedly visited Mormon prophet Joseph Smith and divulged the location of some golden plates containing the “fullness of the everlasting gospel.” These plates—abridged by Moroni and his father, Mormon, 1,400 years earlier—were written in “reformed Egyptian hieroglyphics.” Along with the plates, Smith found a pair of magical eyeglasses that he used to translate the cryptic writing into English. The result was a new revelation called the Book of Mormon and a new religion called Mormonism.

How millions can take the Book of Mormon seriously is almost beyond comprehension. First, while Smith referred to the Book of Mormon as “the most correct of any book on earth and the keystone of our religion,” its flaws run the gamut from the serious to the silly. In the category of serious, the Book of Mormon contains modalistic language that militates against the biblical doctrine of the Trinity (Ether 3:14). In the category of silly, a man struggles to catch his breath after having his head cut off (Ether 15:31).

Furthermore, while archeology is a powerful testimony to the accuracy of the Bible the same cannot be said for the Book of Mormon. Not only is there no archeological evidence for a language such as “reformed Egyptian hieroglyphics,” there is no archeological support for lands such as the “land of Moron” (Ether 7:6). Nor is there any archeological evidence to buttress the notion that the Jaredites, Nephites, and Lamanites migrated from Israel to the Americas. On the contrary, both archeology and anthropology demonstrate conclusively that the people and places chronicled in the Book of Mormon are little more than the product of a fertile imagination.

Finally, Joseph Smith asserted that the golden plates were translated “by the power of God” and produced “the most correct of any book on earth.” Joseph F. Smith, the sixth president of the Mormon Church, went so far as to say that the words were not only correct but “every letter was given to [Smith] by the gift and power of God.” In reality, however, the Book of Mormon has had to be corrected thousands of times to compensate for Smith’s poor grammar and spelling.

The Book of Mormon is fraught with other errors as well. For example, “Benjamin” was changed to “Mosiah” when Mormon leaders realized that in the chronology of the Book of Mormon King Benjamin had already died—thus he would have been hard pressed to “interpret” the engravings mentioned in Mosiah 21:28.

Perhaps the greatest crack in the credibility of the Book of Mormon is that whole sections were derived directly from the King James Version of the Bible—this despite the fact that according to Mormon chronology, the Book of Mormon predates the King James Version by more than a thousand years. Little wonder that Mormons accept the Book of Mormon based on a “burning in the bosom” rather than on history and evidence.

— Hank Hanegraaff

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送交者: 全伊 2012月03月16日08:41:58 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:你参观的应该是visitor center。圣殿是不能参观的 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 08:38:28

为什么？圣经说耶稣基督一次献上，信徒人人皆
祭司，可以直接进入至圣所(有形的还是无形的)寻求神的面。你们摩门为什么把神已经向信徒敞开的大门却又关上呢？

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送交者: 以西缅 2012月03月16日21:44:13 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:真的。一年多了，已经获得了去圣殿的资格。上月底 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 07:50:34

关于到底什么是圣殿，圣经清楚的教导是

每个信徒的身体是神的殿，信徒蒙圣灵引导同心聚集时圣灵又以这个由“活石”临时构建的整体为神的殿，好似旧约的会幕，可拆可重新组建，全看代表“耶和华使 者”的云柱、火柱的带领 -- 云柱、火柱一停就要搭建会幕；云柱、火柱一要动就要拆开会幕，祭司们抬着分开的各个部分，跟从云柱、火柱行走，其余的百姓跟随而行。

因着耶稣一次永远在十字架上所献的祭完全满足父的要求，旧约会幕的预表在新约借着圣灵的内住得以在新约的时代实现。因此，任何人还是将物质的圣殿看作圣殿（无论建筑多么雄伟壮观）就是开教会历史的倒车。神允许物质的圣殿两次被火焚烧就是对我们所有人的警戒。

所以陷在摩门教里的井蛙朋友，请你好好三思而行。降低主耶稣的身位，没有圣灵内住的印记，一切的仪式都是空架子，都是人的假冒。因此，人宗教的灵是可怕 的，因为是与神的灵对抗的。当时反对耶稣的犹太教的最高领袖阶层就是最好的例证。愿我们今天不要重蹈覆辙，也不要跟着别人瞎跑。

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送交者: Joshua 2012月03月16日08:16:04 于 [彩虹之约] 发送悄悄话
回答: 由于

摩门教是标准的“粉饰的坟墓”不过无知的帅哥美女确实多。

摩门教创立与撒旦教共济会有很大关系, 摩门教真正成功的是商业，副国银行就是他们创立的

它们的LOGO是“HOLY BEE”

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送交者: Joshua 2012月03月16日08:49:04 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:我觉得你对摩门教及其教徒还是挺无知的。不想了解没关系，但不要 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 08:36:58

十几年前同摩门长老辩论过圣经，与摩门教家庭同住过
多少了解一些,

刚入教的都是外围，跟本不了解内幕的黑暗

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送交者: 以西缅 2012月03月16日16:05:22 于 [彩虹之约]
回答:耶稣教导人从行为分辨谁是他的跟随者。 由 井蛙 于2012-03-16 10:32:48

当你知道... 兼谈摩门教的问题

如果你知道，你我是从“叛逆的天使”来的，就知道到底是靠耶稣十字架的救赎行为得救，还是靠自己守律法和教义得救的区别在什么地方了。

摩门教除了在圣经之外又增添了一本“经书”外，还有一下的问题：

（1）摩门教相信耶稣是受造的天使长成为人；

（2）摩门教相信三而一的神是“三位三体”

（3）摩门教相信女子必须与男子结婚才能得救（这是多妻问题的根源所在，虽然有些摩门教会不实行多妻，但并不意味着他们否认了那个背后的教义）-- 注：罗七认为这是非常邪恶的，也确实如此。

（4）与第三点相关联的，摩门教将亚当、夏娃吃禁果理解成他们的同房，因此认为吃禁果是神的许可。

（5）摩门教不承认十字架的救赎工作，而认为那仅仅是榜样 -- 纯正的信仰既相信十字架的代赎大能，又坚信其榜样的最高样式。

还有一些，一般的摩门教徒并不十分清楚上面的意思，乃是叫他们注重其信徒的好行为。看人的外在行为而相信一个团体是危险的。