老美球迷如何看待林书豪
火箭为林书豪开出了一份3年2510万美元的全额保障合同，其中他第3年的薪水高达1490万美元. 这给纽约队续签林书豪带来了一定的困难。如果尼克斯选择匹配火箭的报价，那他们14-15赛季的薪资总额将高达8700万美元，超出奢侈税触发线1700万美元。
队员和球队签合同本身没什么可以非议的，不过老美是如何看待这个问题的？
纽约队的球星Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith认为这样的合同是“ridiculous”。
今天在美国的报纸上，还有球迷把林书豪称为是“garbage".l理由是有那么一场球他没打好，所以就是garbage。
纽约队上半年的赛季，当主力球星Anthony和小斯同时受伤，多场次不能上场，而球队又远远落后于进入playoff第8名时，林书豪带着无名星之队力战群雄，连战连胜，硬是杀出一条血路，奠定了playoff的根基。
一个拿着最低工资的球员，作出了巨星所做不到的贡献，这就是林疯狂，这是一个不争的历史。
所以，今天Carmelo认为这样的合同是“ridiculous”也好，球迷把林书豪称为是“garbage"也好，对于林书豪取得过的成绩，都是无法抹黑的。
那么老美究竟如何看待林书豪？今天特意去NBA网站，阅读了几十条读者评语，没有一个人真正像报纸上一样用类似garbage一字来贬低林书豪。许多评论非常中肯。可见这家报纸报道的导向。ZT一些和大家分享。
纽约队的问题是，这是一个没有士气的球队。如果没有林书豪那么一拼搏，今年原来肯定是进不了playoff的。另外纽约队缺乏智彗，今年的playoff完全可以避免和热火交锋，却在最后几场硬去争取第7名而失去避免和热火交锋的机会。不知道领队和教练为何如此没有战术概念。纽约在主场就拼掉过公牛队，和公牛对决容易的多。
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Hoopzaah says:
July 16, 2012 at 10:24 am
Man, that Carmelo fella… Pro douchebag.
If Lin is as hardworking guy as he shows. He’s worth every penny. McHale would love to have a guy like that to deliver to the low post as he likes to see. There are few “create a play first” point guards in the league, best bet is to grab a humble guy like Lin. He will answer the caoch’s requests.
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Josh L says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:43 pm
It comes down to luxury tax. If you’re willing to spend an extra $43 million dollars 3 years from now let me know.
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John says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm
Knicks organization seems to have really bad basketball IQ. It would be better to replace the overpaid Amare and have Lin in being the glue that connects the whole team and makes it functional. As for Carmelo’s comment, he should talk less and work more on being a better defender and team player
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Johnny says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Carmelo is spot on with what he said. Good man.
Let me explain this to you friend. Lin played amazing 11 games and 8-10 good games. Rockets will pay him 25mil for first 3 years and 15mil for 4th year. The tax will put the KNICKS up by 43mil if the signed Lin.
To do the math for you that means they will pay 83 MILLION dollars for Lin over 4 years. You cannot justify so much money for such an unproven player.
Lin can play and he showed, no one argues that. But he also showed that he can’t hang with superstars once he got scouted, not yet at least. For 20mil a year thats a risk not worth taking. The ONLY reason can offer Lin that much money (40mil instead of knick’s 83, but still a big load for Lin), is because they have Asian fan base from Yao Ming days to get the money back in ticket/merch sales.
I’m happy for Lin, I’m a fan and want to see him perform as he did against LA every game he plays but it would be idiotic for Knicks to pay for Lin.
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Robert Zenon says:
July 16, 2012 at 10:26 am
The Rockets will be the losers in all this, because as much as you said the hype with him was, he failed misablely in his second meeting againt the Nets and Williams and now he is coming to a conference that is tops really in the NBA, especially at guard play. He was cut from this conference twice and i think he will show why again, the Rockets GM is a knucklehead to say the least. This will be the worst hyped signing since the Raiders signed Dallas Super Bowl MVP conerback(I can’t even remember his name, LOL). Oh well I am a Laker fan and I’m glad to see him coming to the conference, thats if he doesn’t get cut again, LOL, oops that will not be an option this time.
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haters at work says:
July 16, 2012 at 10:50 am
LOL someone owned kobe, just to remind you haha
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Nate says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:31 pm
Every player has a bad game and good game, you can’t judge him for not performing well in one game. What if the next game he goes against Williams, Lin scores 30pts? Then your’e going to say it was just a lucky game? The fact is that Lin is a pretty good player from the time that we’ve seen him. At least he’s a better then average player at this point. The only reason people say he’s overrated is because we’re the one’s who are holding him so high up in a pedestal that when he doesn’t perform to our expectations then we criticize him. I think he’s worth the contract that Houston is signing him for, only time will tell if Houston made the right move or not.
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Nate says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Also, I’m not sure why Anthony and Smith called Lin’s contract ridiculous and bickering over it. As team mates they should be happy and supportive for him. With that attitude it’s bound to cause friction already if Lin stays with the Knicks. A ridiculous contract is what the Hawks gave Joe Johnson, or what Orlando gave Rashard Lewis and Turk. Houston sees potential in Lin, that’s why they offer this contract, it’s an investment and it’s not like they’re losing that much, 3yrs for 25 mil. Again, whether this turns out to be a good investment or not, only time will tell.
shawnmatrix says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:49 pm
he almost had a triple double that game with 20 points, how is that “failed misablely “? go check your box score before you make a comment
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LoveNBA says:
July 16, 2012 at 2:04 pm
@Robert Zenon. Your attitude is just like Anthony and JR Smith. Selfish, Self-centered, and Arrogant! Melo will never win an championship because he’ll always be a jinx to any NBA Team. Good luck Knicks!
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David says:
July 16, 2012 at 10:51 am
Robert, you are obviously an idiot. You cannot see through the details. The Rockets will be the winner of this regardless if the Knicks match or if they do not. If Knicks match, they pay out the taxes and look like fools when they have a team that that has maxed out their cap in just 4 players. Then they will have to rebuild again just like they have done over the past 2 decades. The Knicks are one of the worst ran organizations in basketball.
If Rockets get him, this will put fans in the seats and bring in more money. The Rockets will not lose anything. Keep in mind the contract will be 8.4 million a year for the rockets, not some drastic jump like it will be for the Knicks.
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Krespino says:
July 16, 2012 at 11:10 am
The Knicks will be fools to let Lin go. Without Lin The knicks will be a boring franchise which will produce, again, nothing but disappointments every coming day. There isn’t even 1 % chance that The Knicks will ever be title contenders with Carmelo and Amare, or even an exciting team to watch. The two players who do not deserve their pay are those two. So many games The Knicks won without Melo and Amare speak for themselves, it’s not one game or two games, I would really want to see 7 consecutive wins achieved by Carmelo playing, which I will never see. Lin has done that. Carmelo the loser has been disturbed by the recognition and limelight that Lin has got, that’s what is happening.
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kim says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:36 pm
You are absolutely right.
Carmelo does not worth 10% of the Money Knicks paying him
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Mel says:
July 16, 2012 at 11:12 am
I agree with you. Do the right thing. Let him go. Although he’s a potential cash cow in terms of merch sales & such – the Knicks have to demonstrate that they care about winning the chip. He is not that pg.
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Iodine says:
July 16, 2012 at 11:22 am
There IS bad contract and there ARE stupid trades to absorb it occasionally.
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Chris says:
July 16, 2012 at 11:29 am
Knicks would be nuts to let Lin go. Besides his playing potential, he sells jerseys and puts new fans in the seats and watching on TV. How many millions do they spend on marketing trying to make that happen?
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LOLakers says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Come to Miami! Guaranteed championship, the greatest fans in the world and the best team in NBA history!!!! You can even help us with our 10-peat!!!
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futbol3ro says:
July 16, 2012 at 2:08 pm
10-peat? really? LMAO. goodluck with that.
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Sea Pea says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Wow, I can’t believe Carmelo and JR Smith are such haters. Your worth is not always about how good you are. If Barrack Obama wanted to play point guard for the Wizards for a season I’m pretty sure the Wizards would do it because of the marketing value. They could charge All-Star game prices for seats. Your skill level and years of service is not everything.
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Bob says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Knicks lost their glue guys and will have egomainia 82 times next season. I would have like to see lin being groomed by Kidd, but i don’t think it’s going to happen………..because it is the Knicks. Lin or Nash would have been the right pg for them. don’t like it, be well jlin, you were a great player for the knicks. 25m is a big payday for a 21 game experienced Pg, but i’d risk it with a guy like you. You proved that you can run an offense and set people up at an all star level.
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TTKIN says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Smith said it might make problems with teammates…what about the rest of the league who sees a little kid who has played all of half a season and gets those paychecks. Guys are going to come after Lin with everything they’ve got every night. They will try running him out of the league. Im not saying he’ll do poorly, but he will not play well enough to earn that much money.
This contract is stupid and I think the Knicks made the right move getting Felton. Everyone was too concerned with Lin getting along with Melo…the Knicks dont need someone to make Melo good. He’ll do fine. They need a PG who can get Amare back to MVP levels, and that PG is either steve Nash or Ray Felton. Nash aint a possibility so NY got the next best option. Smart move that a lot of people will criticize until theyre proven wrong.
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Nate says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm
The reason Amare isn’t performing as well is because his style clashes with Melo’s, not because Lin can’t make Amare a better player. Melo doesn’t play well with a point guard, he needs the ball to be in his hands, I think this is one of the reasons why Nash didn’t choose NY. I’m sure if you take out Melo, and play Amare and Lin together, Amare will be putting up his numbers again.
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JON says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm
SO is Chauncey a pg….as I recall 1 year with chauncey and they went to the western conference finals…stop lies please speak the truth.
Nick says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm
After reading through quite a few insightful comments, I really don’t see money or even the luxury tax really being a problem if the Knick’s do match Houston Rockets offer to Jeremy Lin’s. With the New York Knicks being one of the largest NBA market and Media central, Jeremy Lin will attract lots of businesses from Asia (Taiwan, Singapore, China..etc.). Which could amount to hundreds of millions of dollars in broadcasting rights and product sales.
Regarding his productivity, the benefits he brings and potential as a basketball player, he showed he can ball with the best of them in the NBA. He brought excitement back to the Madison Square Garden. Linsanity saved the Knicks from having a disppointing season. Gave fans hope. If anyone watched Jeremy Lin on a regular basis, he is exactly what the Knicks need. He works especially well with Tyson Chandler.
Some critized him for not performing against the Heat and the Nets. We have to remember he’s still progressing and learning as he plays each game. As a Knick’s fan, I truly think we lucked out having him. With mounting injuries, he answered our call and performed marvellously. But everyone will have a few bad games now and then. He’s done pretty much everything until his injury. Which was unfortunate. But he’s young, and there’s great potential.
Carmelo Anthony’s wrong. Houston’s offer to Lin’s not ridiculous at all. I actually find Anthony’s contract ridiculous. He gets paid an all-star, team leader contract, yet he under performs time and time again. He plays no D, he’s a ball hog, and he’s shooting percentage is horrible. He gets his points from putting up numerous shots every game, he’s not efficient at all. He hasn’t even taken the Knick’s to the eastern conference finals yet.
I really hope the Knick’s will match the offer for Lin. Jeremy Lin gave us hope when neither of our supposed stars(Carmelo and Amare) did anything.
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uoykcuf says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I’m down with lin goes to houston. Knicks’s pg position is jammed with Felton and Kidd. I doubt kidd going to be the 3rd guard off the bench nor felton as a bench warmer. Contractwise I agreed is pretty ridiculous for a guy who played 25 games. Still there’s many bad contracts in NY before Lin though, anyone rememeber jerome james? Eddy curry?
Team chemistry is abother thing, let’s see what’s the next move for the knicks.
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BRR says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I think New York knick be fool because they dont have enought confident with lin that the reaon why they are reluctan to sign. the asainanity to shin in national tv. lol They are not prepare fo reall star.
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zanonymous says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm
I say the knicks did not want to trade felton in the first place, but they had to. now they have him for longer and cheaper. let lin walk he messed up, the only way we keep lin is with another trade and I don;’t see that sorry. I know he wanted more money but he was talking about jesus and thanking god. what happen to being humble and taking the contract keeps you with a team. For example JR smith. for the first time lin you lost in my book.
zanonymous aka #1 NYFAn
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uoykcuf says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I seriously don’t understand what you mean.
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Shey says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:53 pm
lin deserves to go UP.. Just play now Worry later. if Lin-era fall he has the rights to accept or withrew the 14Million dollars you keep on worying..
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Benjie says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm
Trade Melo so you have more cap space for Lin. Having Amare-Melo in the knicks line-up has not served them well.
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speaking the truth says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I really don’t think he deserves that much, and he is not that good as most of people think, but having him in the team is good for business.
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thomas robinson says:
July 16, 2012 at 12:58 pm
carmelo is such a hater. how can he said something like that to his own teamate? lin deserved more $$ than him. i’ll kill myself if carmelo win a title in new york. i don’t like him anymore!
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Red&Yellow95 says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Leave it to Carmelo to act like a jerk. He will never win a championship. Lin is the only reason the Knicks didn’t crumble down the stretch was because of him. Everyone around him played better when Anthony was hurt; they strung off 7 straight wins. If it wasn’t for him, the Bucks would’ve been in the playoffs.
Glad Lin is coming to Houston. New York dissed him, so he went out and got paid by a team who wants the talent he holds.
Also: The back-loaded contract is only for the Knicks. If they match, it’ll be 5/5/15 on the 3rd year, meaning the Knicks would have approx 70 million tied to Chandler, Anthony, Stoudemire and Lin if I’ve got math right in the 14-15 season.
Due to a loophole in the new CBA, known as the Gilbert Arenas Provision, the contract will play out 8.3/8.3/8.3 in the Rocket’s contract books. Same deal they gave to Asik. It’s smart and sticks it to the Knicks. Everyone should know this fact before they start trash-talking Lin’s contract.
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MIA03 says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Lin, Melo and amare OVERRATED! only player i like in their roster is chandler
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uoykcuf says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm
what about Iman shumpert?
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Shey says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Refresh the page ang vote again.. just simple as that and ratings on this poll with go up.. Go Jeremy Lin haters.. Houston Rocket Fans.. Racist’s.. hahahaha this page scks..
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CharlesMcNarles says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:12 pm
WAHOOO! COME TO HOUSTON!!!! F NYC- your teammates don’t like you! They’re haters! Leave NYC and come JOIN MCHALE!
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bey krews says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm
when you have team mates like melo and JR smith ( who got kicked out of denver )
you’re team will go nowhere but rock bottom despite the stars you have on your team..
the key is UNSELFISHNESS..but it’s clear to each and everyone that melo,J.R and amar’e only want what’s best for themselves and not with their team.
best of lUck Mr.Lin,good riddance of new york and you have a better chance of improving in Houston.
mark my words: NY WILL NEVER WIN A TITLE WITH THOSE 3 AROUND THEM.
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Zach says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Goodbye Lin, don’t turn the ball over on your way out the door.
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daytrader68 says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:21 pm
It’s too bad that Lin may not stay at NY. However, as long as Knicks is winning, NY fans will forget Lin….sad but it’s true. Folks at the franchise level knows what they are doing.
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knicks1on1 says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm
The Knicks such sign Lin and trade him in the third season, Like the Hawks did with Joe Johnson. Now the Nets is stuck with paying him 90 Mil.
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wetz says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Even if Lin perform only around half the expectation from the Linsanity, I think his contract is worth it solely on the potential of the billions of Chinese fans worldwide. Yao Ming hasn’t really performed up to his max expectation potential when he was drafted as #1 pick (even before his injury ridden years), but the Rockets benefitted a lot from Yao Ming’s legion of Chinese fans, so they know that Lin only need to perform consistently as an average NBA PG starter and they will reap benefits and continued support from the Chinese fans worldwide (and the non-Chinese fans who loves Cinderella stories)…
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Steffen says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Knicks where bad with their so called stars running the show. At best an overpaired group of stars underperforming in a big way.
With Melo out and Amare just coming back, being forced to fit into the whole Linsanity that was happening on the Knicks when Amare was fit again, then the Knicks looked like they had a chance of something at least. And it wasnt only Lin, it was just about every role player the team throw off the bench and onto the floor who bought into the way the team was playing and gave it their all with Lin running the show.
All those role players are all gone almost and back are the baddie so called stars who never have nor never will achieve anything, because they both think they are gods gift to the basketball world and dont give much about their team.
Gl Lin your better off going elsewhere. Melo on the wing stopping any creativity, cuts, screens without the ball and ball movement would not work well for you anyways and Knicks will not trade Melo even tho they should if they were really into given New Yorkers a championship run.
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Celticforever says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm
Dont let jeremy lin go he is the spark and inspiration to all struggling NBA players given the proper break any player can perform and contribute to the team
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Sean H says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm
The Rockets did it for business reasons. They’re willing to gamble that Lin will bring them more revenue from outside the US (looking at you China) to offset all $25MIL and make them some serious dough. Also, since their brand is already well known in China, then selling LIn as Yao 2.0 is not going to be difficult. Loading the backside of that contract was also a purely business move to force the Knicks to let Lin go. Yes, as a player is Lin worth $15 Mil in that last year? No, but from a business prospective, Lin is worth every penny, Sometimes, fans just forget that the NBA as well as other leagues are still a busniess.
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mike says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm
thats not fare lin was playing the whole knicks team because of jealousy
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mike says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:38 pm
i meant the whole heat team
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NYCOMMONSENSE says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:43 pm
keep lin anyone that voted he should go shouldnt be able to have an opinion ny needs lin anyone with negative comment s against lin should break there cpu and stop watchin basketball and go to church
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Sean H says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Oh and to that Melo calling the Lin contract “Ridiculous.” Look in the mirror! Jealousy will eat you a alive. Just be happy your being paid a “ridiculous” amount of money for only getting your teams to the first round every single year you’ve been in the league.
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HMH says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Funny thing is I remember Mark Cuban saying similar things about Steve Nash before letting him go to Phoenix. I love underdogs. This article was a little upsetting to me because it doesn’t mention how hard Lin has worked and how he seized the opportunity before him when other players would take it for granted. Continue to work hard to chase your dreams Lin — I for one am rooting for ya! =)
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dave says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:49 pm
It’s all about business! no matter how good or how bad he is,some people are just so stupid.The knicks think they can get a champion with those old men just signed? don’t make me laugh!
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WhatHappensNext says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm
I believe the Knicks are gonna let Lin go. CP3′s a free agent next summer and it’s common knowledge that he wants to play in NY with Melo n Stat!. So let Lin go go over the salary cap for a player like CP3!…. Lets GO KNICKS!!
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Unknown says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Sekou Smith didn’t get the fact right.
14.8 M in the 3rd year would be ONLY applicable to NY Knicks, which have been struggling with overpaid & overrated “superstars” (both Melo and Amare have over 20 M per year). It is just 8.4 M per year to Rockets.
The Knicks “big 3″ are taking much bigger share in salary, yet much less achieving than the Heat “big 3″. That is the rootcause of most of the Knicks issues.
8.4 M per year for Lin as a Rocket is definetly more reasonable. I see it a win-win scenario for Lin to go to Houston.
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nyfan81 says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm
rumor has it LIN was cleared to play in the playoffs..he didnt want to because he wasnt ready..DIVA let him GO
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SSS says:
July 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Resign Lin. If he doesn’t develop after first two years (at $5 million per) then trade him. There will always be takers because he carries the Chinese market with him. Don’t lose him for nothing.
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JON says:
July 16, 2012 at 2:05 pm
All this talk about how selfish melo is and all that is crazy…Melo was criticizing the structure of the contract there is a reason why the league is calling these kinds of contracts poison pill contracts….Lin would get paid 14.8 MIL in his 3rd season that would actually cost the knicks 43milion with the luxuray tax in essence the Knicks would have to pay 43 milion in that 3rd year. Kobe Bryant does not have a salary cap hit of 43 mil so please cut it out there is no guaruntee that lin will be a great player in 3 years that is way too big of a risk or we might have another eddie curry situation…nd i love lin and wish we could have gotten him but lets be serious he was not team first when he was sitting down 85% ready to play in the playoffs because he wanted to ensure his biggest pay day (i would do the same) and if he played in that series and it looked anything like the 1st time he played the heat…there would be no contract of 30 mil to even discuss…So as melo said EVERY player needs to look out for themselves and get the most money as possible….EVERY anylyst in basketball has said this is a badly structured contract but melo needs to shut his mouth and mind his.
