當夢男問起DNA是不是有原子組成時（鏈接1），K19回答：“DNA不一定是由原子組成的（鏈接2），原子本來就沒有。搞懂了很多東西都好想通了。”

接着K19從collectiveevolution.com 拷貝了一段文字，並給了一個介紹DNA teleport 的鏈接，如果你讀K19推薦的文章，都表達了一個意思：DNA 可以通過莫名其妙的teleport 的形式在純水中產生DNA，注意這裡是物質的空間傳送，很明顯K19理直氣壯地說出來，那麼，他肯定是堅信這種無中生有的DNA的產生方式的。

本人對此非常吃驚，於是挑了他們舉證的諾貝爾獎得主Luc Motagnier 的實驗結果做了一番調查。

K19 引用的那段文字是這樣的：

In an astonishing experiment performed by Nobel Prize winner Dr. Luc Montagnier, DNA was randomly created out of nothing but sterilized water. The experiment used two separate sealed test tubes, one containing sterilized water and the other carrying both sterilized water and DNA. After electrifying both tubes and letting the tubes sit for eighteen hours, Dr. Montagnier was surprised to see that the tube that had originally contained nothing but water had produced tiny DNA strands(LM的原著里沒有提到產生DNA片段,他們是測定電磁信號EMS). This was a shock for many reasons, mainly because water only contains hydrogen and oxygen and a DNA molecule is much more complex. How could something like this possibly happen? It seemed as though the DNA had teleported from one tube to the other, like they were connected by an unknown force.

在LM2009年的原始論文裡的實驗方法是這樣的（見下圖）：容器中左邊的試管為濃度10^-3 稀釋DNA，右邊是10^-9稀釋濃度DNA，很清楚沒有一管是不含DNA的清水。然後通過18-24小時按照protocol的培育後（見黑色試管），右側試管的EMS（電磁信號）發生了趨向左側（donor管）變化（省略具體內容），所以LM以此推斷同源DNA之間有teleport現象，雖然這個結論受到幾乎全世界科學家的質疑，但是至少從實驗設計分析結果看沒有大問題。這個也不是我要和K19要討論的內容。

K19的問題是以訛傳訛，認為有DNA的管子可以teleport DNA分子到純清水的管子裡，於是就有了他認為DNA根本沒有原子組成這樣超大膽而荒謬的結論。然而LM的實驗裡兩根試管里都有DNA只是稀釋程度不同。退一萬步，即使有teleport存在，但是K19說的：DNA可以沒有原子組成仍然是很玄妙啊，真的不該這樣對科學問題信口開河。

老克，你認為我是冤枉你嗎？

我把這篇論文相關的一些描述貼在這裡，如有興趣可以讀一下，不是特別難

Evidence for homologous “cross talk” between dilutions

We then wonder whether or not it was possible to generate new signal-emitting structures from tube to tube by using wave transfer. The following experiment which was repeated several times showed that indeed this was the case.

A donor tube of a low “silent” dilution of E. Coli (10-3) was placed side by side close to a receiver tube of the positive “loud” highest dilution of the same preparation (10-9). Both tubes were placed in a mumetal box for 24 hours at room temperature, so that the tubes

were not exposed to external electromagnetic noise, and only exposed to the signals generated by the structures present in the tubes themselves.

The tubes were then read again by the signal detecting device: the donor tube was still silent, however the receiver tube became also silent.

Moreover, when further dilutions were made from the receiver tube (10-10, 10-11, 10-12), these dilutions had became positive (Fig. 6). These results suggest that the receiver tube was made silent by formation of an excess of new nanostructures, which could emit signals upon further dilution. 

（Interdiscip Sci Comput Life Sci (2009) 1: 81–90）

*nanostructures is a name LM used to describe sth in DNA，which generating EMS.