Mr. WALKER: The government spends every dime of the Social Security surplus on other government operating expenses, every single dime. There's no savings for Social Security. We've issued additional debt that ultimately what happens is we'll have to exchange one form of debt for public debt.

And by the way, the government doesn't even want to call the trillions of dollars that it owes Social Security and Medicare a liability. It doesn't want it counted as far as our debt to as a percentage of the economy. It wants to make our deficits look smaller than they are because of these funds, and these are all wrong things. This is creative accounting and self-dealing that doesn't make sense.