| 美國網民對中國主幹網絡被美情報機構侵入的評論 (譯) |
| 送交者: 力挽狂瀾 2013年06月14日03:27:48 於 [軍事天地] 發送悄悄話 |
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下為美公開論壇上兩位網民對中國主幹網絡節點被美國情報機構駭入的評論.
由評論可以看出, 雖然中國一定懷疑過美國對自己的情報監視, 但是在過去十幾年內中國一直對美國侵入中國主幹網絡節點的具體滲透方法未有覺察. 更不知道被泄密監控的廣泛性和深度. 網友 RellRoad: I'm pretty sure China was already aware of this. 我肯定中國早就知道 (美國情報機關黑入中國網絡主幹路由器的事情) 網友 aycockonxion: You absolutely have no idea. 別裝了, 你根本什麼都不知道. 網友 RellRoad: Oh believe me I do, six years active duty army as military intel. 是嗎? 你最好相信我, 我已經現服役6年在美軍情報機構工作. 網友 aycockonxion: 8 years as a Battalion S2, 4 years as a Brigade S2 and 3 deployments to Afghanistan. China had no idea and if you were really MI you should be able to deduce this. 本人服役為營級情報官8年, 旅級情報官4年, 部署在阿富汗3年. 中國根本對我們做什麼一無所知, 而且如果你真是軍情局的, 你應該能推導出這個觀點. 網友 RellRoad: And what makes you think they didn't? Get real. (就憑你資歷)那又怎樣 有什麼證據讓你認為他們(中國)不知道? 網友 aycockonxion: Get real? Son there is more than meets the eye in this whole situation. If they knew about it they would have never let him into HK. He would have been on every Chinese watch list. Hacking into backbone routers, etc, any NSA or CIA operation like that the Chinese government would have never approved of or sanctioned because the possibility of leaking sensitive military or government information to the US is terribly high. There are dozens of more reasons I would be happy to cite but unfortunately we are not in a T-SCIF or using Secret or TS communications here. 又怎樣? 傢伙, 這裡包含的可不是你僅僅眼前能看到. 如果他們(中國)真的了解(美國情報機構幹的事情)那他們(中國)根本不會讓他(Edward Snowden, 中情局揭秘者)進入香港. 他會在中國所有的監視名單上. 黑入中國網絡的主幹路由器,還有其它類似活動, 任何由NSA(美國家安全局)或 CIA(美中情局)作的事情都不會得到中國同意因為由此導致的中國秘密信息泄露給美國將是對中國災難性的. 而且還有的是其它原因我可以高興的告訴你但是非常不幸的是我們現在有保密協議, 因此我無法在這裡 詳說. 網友 RellRoad: So you're saying the same government that hacks American computers on a daily basis wasn't aware their own computers were being hacked? Stop. 那麼你是想說中國一直進攻美國電腦網絡卻根本不知道他們自己的電腦已經被黑了? 到此為止吧. 網友 aycockonxion: They surely would have assumed somebody was hacking them (or at least trying to), but being "aware" is 100% different than suspecting, and given what we know and what I can analyze based on 16 years in the Army Intelligence Corps, it is clear that the Chinese never suspected CIA hacking. You are demonstrating complete ignorance of the US intelligence community as a whole. If you want to have any credibility left at all you should stop with the wild guesses. 他們肯定會假設有人在攻擊(至少試圖這樣作), 但是, 能夠"掌握"和僅僅有"懷疑"是完全不同的事情, 而且根據我們知道的情報和我過去16在軍情局內分析的信息,可以說非常清楚的表明中國從來沒有覺察到中情局對其系統的滲透. 你現在只是表明你對美國情報系統完全無知. 如果你還有什麼可信度, 你就會現在停止胡亂猜測. 網友 RellRoad: read the first half of your first sentence. Exactly what I was getting at guy. Maybe I should change my diction so you don't get your panties in such a bunch. China knows they're being spied on by America, maybe not the avenue, but they're no idiots. This "news" is no surprise to them, as it shouldn't be to anybody. 再去讀讀你那句子的前半段. 那正是我要說的. 也許我應該改換的角度這樣你就不會這麼張揚. 中國知道他們被美國監視, 但也許他們不知道美國是通國什麼方法如何做的, 但是他們不是傻瓜. 至少這個"新聞"不應該讓他們或任何人吃驚. |
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