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jael：神聆听信的人祷告也听不信的人的祷告,我一直这么人为,但被我的教会批了,我的牧师坚持人为神只聆听信的人祷告,不信的人被罪隔决开了,是他说的那样吗?
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罗七：没那么简单，还要看神的旨意，人的信心等等。约拿是信的人吗？尼尼微人是信的人吗？神为啥听尼尼微人的祷告而不听约拿的呢？

就算是信的人，祷告的时候难道就不会有罪阻拦？难道就一定有信心？就算是不信的人，他祷告神的时候难道不算有信心？要是神不听，大家没信前的祷告就全没有用了。

当然啦，身为基督徒，应当竭力保守自己不被罪所玷污，保守自己的信心，好使祷告更符合神的旨意，以达上闻。

jael：要是神不听，大家没信前的祷告就全没有用了。我当时就是那么反对的,可是他们马上说,是神开启了死灵魂,不是你那时的祷告他听了,是他让你有了信心用耶酥来包裹你,所以----

罗七：什么叫“用耶稣来包裹”啊？听着咋这么黑话呢？

10:13 因为“凡求告主名的，就必得救。”
10:14 然而人未曾信他，怎能求他呢？未曾听见他，怎能信他呢？没有传道的，怎能听见呢？
10:15 若没有奉差遣，怎能传道呢？

次序是：听道--信--求告(祷告)--得救--罪得赦免。
明明是信而祷告后得救的，还愣说“不是你那时的祷告他听了”。那何必还把祷告放进来呢。

jael：have clothed yourselves with Christ.

你说张伯立冰天雪地里求神的时候,他听了道了没有?那时他信了没有?可是他自己写的他那时候求告(祷告)得以不死,活着离开大陆,

算了,大家一说,我觉得我的问题本身好象有毛病.

知音：就是in Christ的意思
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遥投：如果这“不信的人”是指外邦人请参考历代志下：

6:32 论到不属你民以色列的外邦人、为你的大名、和大能的手、并伸出来的膀臂、从远方而来、向这殿祷告．

6:33 求你从天上你的居所垂听、照着外邦人所祈求的而行．使天下万民都认识你的名、敬畏你、像你的民以色列一样．又使他们知道我建造的这殿、是称为你名下的。

jael： Isaiah 59:2But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.

Galatians 3:26
You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

我的牧师说神不听人的祷告,因为Isaiah 59:2,但是受Christ洗信的人的祷告他听,因为耶酥Galatians 3:26.你的这段经文,我认为有力地回击了他,我想办法指给他看,谢谢

遥投：其实关键的问题是要分清神的主权和神的应许

神听不听外邦人的祷告本是属于神的主权的问题，不是我们凭一两句经节推理就能推出的。

好比说吧，我到一弟兄家去做客，他做了麻婆豆腐给我吃，结果让我看到了他做的很埋汰，满脸的汗水都滴进锅里去了，我就拒绝吃他的麻婆豆腐。

另外一次一个姐妹招待我们做客，她的麻婆豆腐做的非常美味可口，我是食指大动，正想一饱口福呢。不幸的是前面招待过我麻婆豆腐的那位弟兄也在场，他根据上次我没有吃他的麻婆豆腐，愣说我不喜欢吃那道菜，从我的面前把菜搬走了。想象到这儿，我真想踹他一脚：）因为他已经严重地干涉了我的主权。

谈到神的应许，那就是另外的一个问题，我们可以牢牢地抓住神的应许不放，因为神答应给我们的，神一定会给我们。

所罗门王就很会和神谈条件，将神主权里的事情转成神的应许，在他的献殿祷告中，他向神开出的那些条件对以色列今后的命运起了非常关键的作用。没有时间展开谈，但是我们记住一点就行，神的主权绝不能干涉，神的应许一定要牢牢抓住。
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xinmin：Both are wrong! Or only partially right.

(1) Does God listen to an unbeliever's prayer? Yes, as long as he begins to pray in faith! God is more than willing to hear any sinners to call out the Lord's name in humility and faith. In fact, every believer must have their very first such prayer of conversion to be heard by God. Otherwise we can never come into the right relation with God. Does God listen to an unbelievers' selfish prayer out of disbelief? Absolutely not. This is not to say that God does not care him no matter what he prays. That is due to God's grace, not man's prayer.

(2) Does God listen to a believer's prayer? Of course, as long as he prays, again, in faith? What happens when a believer prays without faith? God will not listen! The bible is clear about this.

Thus, God can listen to both unbelievers and believers (you are right on this part), as long as they pray in faith (your pastor was right on this faith prerequisite). But you forgot the faith condition. He forgot that an unbeliever could also begin to pray in faith, which God would gladly listen. He also forgot that a believer's praye would not be taken if any such prayer is not of faith.
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知音: 说到点子上了，关键是faith

思齐: 关键是神的计划,因为连faith也是只有神给你你才有的,如果不是神早就计划了,神没有给你这个faith你自然就没有faith
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jael: 经你这么一说,我觉得这是个问错了的问题,哈哈
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childofgod: how can a unbeliever pray in faith (of whom)?is that unbeliever with faith a believer?is that believer without faith an unbeliever?

xinmin: The mystery of faith.

Faith is part of God's grace also. Even freewill is part of God's grace. But we exercise our freewill to do good in faith, or do bad without faith.

When a nonbeliever (the moment prior to exercising his God-given faith) prays to God in faith (the very moment of exercising his God-given faith), he turns himself 180 degree and become a new believer in faith.

When a believer (who generally exercise his God-given faith after the intial conversion) prays to God in poor faith or even momentary lack of faith, he is momentarily displeased by God for he behaves as if he is like an nonbeliever.

Thankfully a believer will never dwell in this faith-lacking status for too long, otherwise he will NOT be saved (remember our discussion earlier on this continuing faith leading to salvation). Again that is due to the grace of God. That is what we call from faith to faith. A believer will continue in faith, despite spotty momentary lack of it during his life's journey.

Faith is not necessarily a gift that is dished out little by little by God. I personally believe that God has already given everyone the faith capacity to exercise their will of obedience to God. It is up to them to respond to God's love with love in faith. That is prevenient grace per Armenianism.

Thus, a nonbeliever can and should pray to God in faith upon the prompting from the holy spirit. Likewise, a believer can and indeed do reject the prompting of the holy spirit, grieving the holy spirit in the process and showing a lack of faith.

childofgod: this is much clearer. the oq is mysterious only when one has ambiguous meanings of (some of) the keywords: prayer, non/believer, and God's-listening.
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知音: 既然不信，如何谈得上“祷告”？如果一个人根本就不相信祷告的对象之存在，那么这人到底是在跟谁讲话呢？这怎么能算得上“祷告”呢？这其实是个逻辑问题。
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childofgod: be clear of these keywords: 祷告，听，信的人，不信的人.the answer will be clear.
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清晨的翅膀: 有些事你祷告了神才会成就我想你的牧师所说的正是这一类祷告。
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coc: 我说阿你咋就那么听你们牧师的话呢，牧师或许在知识道理上圣经经节上了解的多一点，但是他也是人阿。要我说阿，牧师就是一个参考书，并且要甘于做参考书

GuanGuan: 嗯，有道理不仅要做参考书，也要做草稿本：)
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