謹守:。。。。。(一堆廢話)基督的肉身(σάρξ)的確是從無到有造出來的,但造這肉身的是基督自己,因為祂是創造主,是祂主動取了肉身,而非“被”造。
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該死的加爾文:
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Next he adds, “This Word was in the beginning with God.” He had not said these two words together. He had said, “This Word was in the beginning” and “He was with God.” Now he joins the two together. That is why we must so contemplate Jesus Christ that we do not estimate that He is not true God and of the same essence with the Father. He has, to be sure, been created with respect to His human nature, but we must go further to know Him as our eternal God, Who is in such a manner our God that He is the wisdom of His Father which has been with God from all time. That, then, is the summary of it. Now when we remember this exposition (as it is simply expressed) it will suffice to instruct us for our salvation. Surely it is all we need to know about it.
他(约翰)接下来加上,“这道太初与神同在。”他并没有同时论及那两个字。他说的是‘太初有道’,和‘道与神同在。’如今他讲将两句话联在一起。那就是为什么我们必须凝视耶稣基督,好叫我们不会不把祂当作真神,越不会不把祂当作不与父同质。从祂的人性而言,他当然是被造的,然而我们要进一步认识祂乃是我们永远的神,祂是如此作为我们的神,好叫祂是与神永远同在之父的智慧。那,就是这句话的总结。如今,当我们纪念这样的表述时(就是它直白的表述),它就足以引导我们的救赎。当然,它也就是我们所需要知道的。
Src: Sermons on the Deity of Christ, Sermon 1 on John 1:1-5 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/John%201.1-5), John Calvin
来源:关于基督的神学,约翰1:1-5第一篇讲道,约翰加尔文
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再重播一次:
謹守:是祂主動取了肉身,而非“被”造。
該死的加爾文:He has, to be sure, been created with respect to His human nature/从祂的人性而言,他当然是被造的
謹守:請列出加爾文具體的言論,如果那具體的言論錯了,我不會猶豫說他
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