如同我说过的，圣灵的恩赐不是问题，但是滥解圣灵的恩赐才是问题。

Good point. But I wish evangelicals criticize more, much more, their own failure in bearing fruit of the holy spirit. The evangelicals hold onto the fruit of the spirit while bearing little fruit. The pentecostals hold onto the annointing gift of the spirit while living in the power of the spirit. Who has more catch up to do? It is clear to anyone who are honest.

bfire提到的解说中，有一个方面我是同意的，就是我们并不能真的完全体会他人的痛苦，和被主赦免后得自由的感受。这是我们应该相互学习，更多了解的地方，这也是学习更加爱人如己的地方。

Finally you get to acknowledge (at least in mind, not necessarily in heart) that much (in fact, all) of the world is under the illegal ruling and bondage of the evil spirit. Much of the world needs the crushing power of the holy spirit. Ever try to preach the word of God without the power of the spirit to peoples that worship evil spirit and false gods? Small wonder that the pentecostal movement has the greatest impact in the third world.

不过，这仍然不能解决灵恩派中关于过分追求外在感觉和体验的问题。灵恩路线的核心是什么，就是想通过外在的神迹和奇异体验来传福音。持这样观点的，相信人只要经历了这样外在的神奇经历，就不能不相信神的存在，从而能最终认识和接受耶稣基督做唯一的救主。然而，这正是问题最关键的地方，就是外在的神奇经历更多的时候是无法转化成为对主耶稣基督正确的认识的。如果那样能的话，坦率地说，主耶稣就完全没有必要上十字架了。只要有足够多，并且持续不断的神迹和灵恩的赐下，谁敢说神半个不字？但是我们看见，无论是主耶稣自己的言行，还是早时以色列人在旷野的历史，都证明这样一条道路是不可行的。

You set up a strawman first and then attack that strawman. That is not profitable. Dare to accuse Jesus when he promised to send the holy spirit to the world after his ascension? Why hunker in your narrow-minded understanding of the holy spirit and his movement? Come out of it. The greatest unbelievers of God's mighty work in this age is not ordinary unbelievers, but believers who ignorantly reject the regenerating, in-dwelling, sanctifying, transf0rming and Christ-exalting, and God-glorifying power of the holy spirit. The holistic work of the holy spirit is the essence of pentecostalism.

灵恩派另外一个隐含的问题是什么？经着歌颂灵恩，实际上把我们的神，和世界上其他的“神”等同起来了。我一直准备另做一文专门谈对十诫的理解的，不过可能要再往后一些。不过这里我想说的是，当我们看灵恩派行为里面那些对神的赞美和歌颂的时候，许多时候实在无法和其他宗教(尤其是有形偶像宗教)里面对他们那些假神的崇拜的区别。对于灵恩派对人，他们当然会反驳说，这是本质不同的。好，也许他们认为本质不同，不过我们来看十诫，里面怎么说呢？不可以做任何的像来拜，好象其他拜假神人的样子。当以色列人拜金牛犊，天主教堂里面供耶稣像的时候，他们都是说，这些不过是一个表征而已，我们的心其实是在拜那看不见的耶和华的。

That is almost unforgiveable accusation, if not blaspheme. Living by the power of the holy spirit is never pagan worship. Never!

但是打住，神难道不知道这些吗？神不知道人的软弱，有很多时候，就是要看到、摸到一些东西，一定要有什么超乎平常的感觉，才觉得有个依托吗？为什么这个时候主就“不体谅”我们的软弱了呢？因为什么？就因为主说，我绝不和其他一切假神分享那本来就只有我可以得到的荣耀。如果基督徒要用耶稣像才能安慰自己的软弱，如果基督徒只有通过灵恩聚会里面反复的外在刺激才能坚定自己对神的信心，对神而言，这就根本不是信心，也根本不叫做信主，因为他们把他们的信神和其他一切宗教里面所信的假神，在行为上面等同起来了。这样的话，如果神因为这样的行为得荣耀，那么那些假神也就可以通过同样的崇拜来窃取神的荣耀。

I worry more about those lukewarm Christians who are as good as dead. To experience God's mighty works by the power of the holy spirit is the more honorable and Christian thing to do in life.

所以怎样呢？所以神吩咐，他要得的荣耀是一切假神所不可以得到的，他要的敬拜是一切假神所不可能得到的。同样，他所赐下的恩典也是任何一切假神所无法赐下的。这样，就叫做是“分别为圣”！

Why reinterpret "being set apart"? All false gods pale in comparison with our awesome God. Not honoring God and living for him that is due to him is a great failure in today's Christians lives who reject the multi-dimensional power of the holy spirit.

所以，他要对他的崇拜是纯粹出于内心的诚实，不借助任何外在的偶像，也不要任何外表的刺激。人诚诚实实，平平常常，普普通通，毫无异样，就老老实实的是主的门徒。人信神是因为真相信真理，且信这真理是又真有活的。这样的信心不需要偶像来坚固，也不需要外在刺激来维持。这样的信心是在一切都静寂无声并且看不到希望的时候，仍然坚定不动摇的。

Why hang up with the experiential aspect? Don't we experience God with all our mind, all our heart, all our strength, and all our spirit? What idol are you talking about? Are you implying seeking the annionting of the holy spirit is an idol? What about seeking Lord Jesus Christ? Stop your uninf0rmed attacks.

但是灵恩行动不是这样的。灵恩行动反复鼓吹外在刺激和异象异梦的重要性，好象没有这样，神就不是神了。神的恩赐是会有的，外在的神迹也是可能的。不过当这些成为鸦片一样的东西，成为每次聚会必上的戏码，那这就绝对不是我们主的行为。

Why diminish the multi-dimensional power of the holy spirit? Just because anyone rarely experiences the power of the holy spirit does not make one a qualified attacker to those who do.

Apparently you lack understanding of the pentecostal/charismatic movement. Please read about and experience the holy spirit before you say further.