这两个星期看了好几本关于圣经的书，很有兴趣搞明白，很有兴趣把我的心和基督靠近。

This is commendable. I encourage you to continue searching for a few more months, if not years. What the bible teaches is not inconsequential to all of us. It deserves a bit more time than two weeks you have put in.

可是我很难说服我自己，因为我根本不信世界才存在了这末多短一段时间，即使是上帝创造了世界应该也已经有亿亿年了，并且越读圣经越觉得神不是万能的，可是他有号称自己是万能的，我不能说服我自己相信世界上真的有万能的人，所以才来这里， 谢谢大家的时间。

Bible can be difficult to understand for people with preconceived prejudices and mistaken understandings. One one hand, you find it incredible for a creator God to have begot the cosmos in a short time, on the other, you find God is not omnipotent. Putting this paradox together, you find an almighty and omnipotent God not so almighty and omnipotent. Hmm, what or who are you trying to find? A god not so almighty and omnipotent? If so, you already found him according to your confession. If not, you found him too. Did you get your confusion straightened out?

讨论的结果是，大家都在引经据典，就是一句话：圣经是不容置疑的。 你老是用圣经里的话来证明圣经里的事这是很荒唐的，是说服不了人的。要用事实来说明才更好些。

This is akin to protesting in a court of law that the prosecutor cannot use any positive evidence that is self-consistent while not logically circulatory. Perhaps you do not understand that the bible is divided into Old Testament (OT) and New Testament (NT). What Christians are doing is use OT (Jewish bible) to prove NT, and also use extrabibiblical history and science to bear out the biblical account. Hope you dig deeper.

当然圣经里，特别是新约里有好多道理非常不错，值得我们去遵守和学习， 但是这也不是基督教独有的，其他的宗教里都可以找到相同的成分。

You missed the foundational claim of Christianity: Jesus Christ who died and rose again, fulfilling OT prophecy. Some good moral teachings may be found in other religions, but it is the person of Jesus Christ that sets Christianity apart from all other creeds and claimants. Study Jesus Christ in the next few months and years, you will know who he is, if you really care to.

基督教有着这太强烈的排他性，用一个不能证明是正确的，并且很容易被证明是错误的宇宙起源来证明上帝的伟大，是没有说服力的。 上次在电视上一个牧师讲起来大峡谷根本不是自然形成的，也是上帝造出来的，是在一天形成的，老是这样传教没有意思， 只会引人发笑。

Exclusivity is a hallmark of truth. Truth must be exclusive to all falsehoods. One needs to search for the exclusive truth, not inclusive universalism. To disagree to some else's interpretation of geological formation does not help one to discredit the bible. Hope you know the difference between bible and bible interpretation.

我觉得世界上还是需要我这样虽然能努力工作积极向善，但是又不信神的罪人，同时世界上也需要罪犯， 通奸犯， 需要战争，需要灾难，否则末日审判就永远也不会来临， 那末世界上的罪恶将会永远存在下去。所以我的感觉就是为了永生我们要信基督， 为了达到世界大同我们需要鼓励别人犯罪，才能早日求得末日审判的到来，然后他们下地狱， 我们上天堂。

To retreat into this kind of despair is not very helpful, just as it is unreasonable to claim that the roosters NEEDS to crow every morning to usher in the new mornings.

圣经里的故事告诉我们， 其实世界末日的迹象在世界有人之后就出现了，战争疾病乱伦地震洪水等等等等，并且这些年来从来都没有断过， 那末你还要告诉我没有人知道那一天啥时候来到， 多么无力！！

To muddle the history-long sad saga of human predicament with the eschatological signs is not helpful for your understanding. Read Matthews 24 and see what Jesus has to say.

还有诚之先生对我的关于"什一税“的问题定义为技术问题， 现在我没有必要讨论， 我要讨论的不是我交的起交不起这个钱， 我要讨论的是上帝是不是在做生意，这不是技术问题， 这是决定让别人信与不信的问题。教会很有钱，大家都知道，这些年有于性丑闻好像有几亿几亿的赔款以求得厅外和解。教会的上层应该离上帝更近，应该更知道这样是违背上帝的旨意的， 但是他们还在做，我只能理解为他们根本就不信上帝，他们根本就没有畏惧。如果他们都不信上帝， 我怎么说服自己哪？

About apostasy, you may find Jesus's warnings in Matthew 7 both endearing and alarming. So do not be deceived and self-deceiving. Jesus taught many lessons alluding to money. Jesus has far less interest in your wallet than your soul, mind, spirit and body, your whole being.

圣经还会学下去， 它存在了几百年不应该像我说得这么简单，但是神应该也不会希望我们盲从。本人观点有错误的地方请大家指正。但我的讨论暂时告一段落， 再次表示感谢

Good! Continue your search. The stake is high, do not be an easy quitter.