如同我說過的，聖靈的恩賜不是問題，但是濫解聖靈的恩賜才是問題。

Good point. But I wish evangelicals criticize more, much more, their own failure in bearing fruit of the holy spirit. The evangelicals hold onto the fruit of the spirit while bearing little fruit. The pentecostals hold onto the annointing gift of the spirit while living in the power of the spirit. Who has more catch up to do? It is clear to anyone who are honest.

bfire提到的解說中，有一個方面我是同意的，就是我們並不能真的完全體會他人的痛苦，和被主赦免後得自由的感受。這是我們應該相互學習，更多了解的地方，這也是學習更加愛人如己的地方。

Finally you get to acknowledge (at least in mind, not necessarily in heart) that much (in fact, all) of the world is under the illegal ruling and bondage of the evil spirit. Much of the world needs the crushing power of the holy spirit. Ever try to preach the word of God without the power of the spirit to peoples that worship evil spirit and false gods? Small wonder that the pentecostal movement has the greatest impact in the third world.

不過，這仍然不能解決靈恩派中關於過分追求外在感覺和體驗的問題。靈恩路線的核心是什麼，就是想通過外在的神跡和奇異體驗來傳福音。持這樣觀點的，相信人只要經歷了這樣外在的神奇經歷，就不能不相信神的存在，從而能最終認識和接受耶穌基督做唯一的救主。然而，這正是問題最關鍵的地方，就是外在的神奇經歷更多的時候是無法轉化成為對主耶穌基督正確的認識的。如果那樣能的話，坦率地說，主耶穌就完全沒有必要上十字架了。只要有足夠多，並且持續不斷的神跡和靈恩的賜下，誰敢說神半個不字？但是我們看見，無論是主耶穌自己的言行，還是早時以色列人在曠野的歷史，都證明這樣一條道路是不可行的。

You set up a strawman first and then attack that strawman. That is not profitable. Dare to accuse Jesus when he promised to send the holy spirit to the world after his ascension? Why hunker in your narrow-minded understanding of the holy spirit and his movement? Come out of it. The greatest unbelievers of God's mighty work in this age is not ordinary unbelievers, but believers who ignorantly reject the regenerating, in-dwelling, sanctifying, transf0rming and Christ-exalting, and God-glorifying power of the holy spirit. The holistic work of the holy spirit is the essence of pentecostalism.

靈恩派另外一個隱含的問題是什麼？經着歌頌靈恩，實際上把我們的神，和世界上其他的“神”等同起來了。我一直準備另做一文專門談對十誡的理解的，不過可能要再往後一些。不過這裡我想說的是，當我們看靈恩派行為裡面那些對神的讚美和歌頌的時候，許多時候實在無法和其他宗教(尤其是有形偶像宗教)裡面對他們那些假神的崇拜的區別。對於靈恩派對人，他們當然會反駁說，這是本質不同的。好，也許他們認為本質不同，不過我們來看十誡，裡面怎麼說呢？不可以做任何的像來拜，好象其他拜假神人的樣子。當以色列人拜金牛犢，天主教堂裡面供耶穌像的時候，他們都是說，這些不過是一個表徵而已，我們的心其實是在拜那看不見的耶和華的。

That is almost unforgiveable accusation, if not blaspheme. Living by the power of the holy spirit is never pagan worship. Never!

但是打住，神難道不知道這些嗎？神不知道人的軟弱，有很多時候，就是要看到、摸到一些東西，一定要有什麼超乎平常的感覺，才覺得有個依託嗎？為什麼這個時候主就“不體諒”我們的軟弱了呢？因為什麼？就因為主說，我絕不和其他一切假神分享那本來就只有我可以得到的榮耀。如果基督徒要用耶穌像才能安慰自己的軟弱，如果基督徒只有通過靈恩聚會裡面反覆的外在刺激才能堅定自己對神的信心，對神而言，這就根本不是信心，也根本不叫做信主，因為他們把他們的信神和其他一切宗教裡面所信的假神，在行為上面等同起來了。這樣的話，如果神因為這樣的行為得榮耀，那麼那些假神也就可以通過同樣的崇拜來竊取神的榮耀。

I worry more about those lukewarm Christians who are as good as dead. To experience God's mighty works by the power of the holy spirit is the more honorable and Christian thing to do in life.

所以怎樣呢？所以神吩咐，他要得的榮耀是一切假神所不可以得到的，他要的敬拜是一切假神所不可能得到的。同樣，他所賜下的恩典也是任何一切假神所無法賜下的。這樣，就叫做是“分別為聖”！

Why reinterpret "being set apart"? All false gods pale in comparison with our awesome God. Not honoring God and living for him that is due to him is a great failure in today's Christians lives who reject the multi-dimensional power of the holy spirit.

所以，他要對他的崇拜是純粹出於內心的誠實，不藉助任何外在的偶像，也不要任何外表的刺激。人誠誠實實，平平常常，普普通通，毫無異樣，就老老實實的是主的門徒。人信神是因為真相信真理，且信這真理是又真有活的。這樣的信心不需要偶像來堅固，也不需要外在刺激來維持。這樣的信心是在一切都靜寂無聲並且看不到希望的時候，仍然堅定不動搖的。

Why hang up with the experiential aspect? Don't we experience God with all our mind, all our heart, all our strength, and all our spirit? What idol are you talking about? Are you implying seeking the annionting of the holy spirit is an idol? What about seeking Lord Jesus Christ? Stop your uninf0rmed attacks.

但是靈恩行動不是這樣的。靈恩行動反覆鼓吹外在刺激和異象異夢的重要性，好象沒有這樣，神就不是神了。神的恩賜是會有的，外在的神跡也是可能的。不過當這些成為鴉片一樣的東西，成為每次聚會必上的戲碼，那這就絕對不是我們主的行為。

Why diminish the multi-dimensional power of the holy spirit? Just because anyone rarely experiences the power of the holy spirit does not make one a qualified attacker to those who do.

Apparently you lack understanding of the pentecostal/charismatic movement. Please read about and experience the holy spirit before you say further.