| 沈黑都拿出國外的證據了 zt |
| 送交者: 一劍破天 2013年02月18日18:00:06 於 [軍事天地] 發送悄悄話 |
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這是 i.e. 老大先發現透露的事情,他沒有發主貼,但是看到好些人問就代勞了吧!英文太差只給出原鏈接,自己看吧怕翻譯得一塌糊塗!隨帶給出i.e.的一些評價
原鏈接 http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/avd_07_06_2012_p01-01-473997.xml ============================================================================ SF被索賠的事情好像不是一兩次了,狂噴血呀 http://96.0.120.63/aero/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=920&extra=page%3D1&page=2 ============================================================================ 簡單地說就是龐巴迪為了未來對中國的銷路考慮,不開眼的交給了SF!結果按圖紙作加工一個部件,就這還搞砸了!龐巴迪不得不又交給加拿大人干! 進度極大延後,甚至可能玩死龐巴迪 這下真的對沈飛絕望了。。。。連干粗活都搞不定!就這海空軍腦子燒壞了才會看上SF的東西 Bombardier Temporarily Reassigns Key CSeries Fuselage Work By Jens Flottau Source: Aviation Daily Bombardier Aerospace has temporarily reassigned responsibility for key components and work packages of its CSeries contracted to Chinese partner Shenyang Aircraft Corp. (SAC). When Bombardier established the manufacturing system for its new 110- to 149-seat jet family, it allocated development and production of three fuselage sections—forward, center and rear—plus the empennage to SAC. It also charged the Chinese supplier with building the tail cone and wing-body fairing and center wing box. But that work allocation has changed. Bombardier, at least temporarily, has taken fuselage assembly to Montreal, although the components are still being built in Shenyang. Industry sources also say that several of the work packages previously allocated to SAC have been temporarily transferred to Western suppliers. Spanish aerostructures specialist Aernnova confirms it has a contract with Bombardier to deliver 40 center wing boxes and tail cones for the CSeries before the work is shifted back to China. It is unclear how many sets of fuselage sections will be built in Montreal, but one aerospace executive claims about 10 aircraft could be affected. SAC, which is mainly a combat aircraft builder, has given some of its CSeries work to its civil offshoot, SACC, which receives detail parts from SAC and builds the major assemblies for export to Canada. Reviewing the SACC business, President Pang Zhan spoke this year of such challenges as meeting customers’ ever higher demands for quality, and said his answer was to specialize. The company could not bring together the resources to properly build all parts of an aircraft, he said, so in developing its business SACC now concentrates on tail sections, doors and engine mountings, a much narrower range of work than it is conducting on the CSeries. A representative of SAC referred Aviation Week to Bombardier. One source with knowledge of the situation says it is “shocking that Bombardier has watched [problems unfold in China] and done nothing about it for so long.” The contracts with Shenyang were announced in 2008 at Farnborough, two days after the formal launch of the CSeries program. In August 2009, Shenyang delivered a 23-ft. test fuselage barrel to Bombardier’s St. Laurent plant in Montreal. In March 2010, SAC started construction of the facility for building the fuselage sections. Less than two years ago, Bombardier is understood to have contacted suppliers, such as Aernnova, about stepping in temporarily to build some components. Aernnova delivered the first center wing box to Bombardier in January this year. One aerospace executive says the cause of the problem lies in Bombardier’s supply chain management. SAC was unable to handle the manufacturer’s design tools, which are challenging when using Western data systems even without a language barrier, he says. 丟人丟的一塌糊塗。。。。 龐巴迪在瀋陽有百來個人,加拿大派過去的,就是為了控制進度了質量, 可惜112板金廠水平太高了。。。人家這麼死盯死守也把它搞砸了。。。 丟人啊,,,C系列用的是catia V5設計結構的,居然搞不定。 龐巴迪為了打入中國市場所以給包活。中國做的價格又不便宜。 中國用市場來換經驗給沈飛。現在倒好,這個敗家仔兒把東西搞砸了。 同比結構外包,成飛西飛現在做的東西(包括西飛負責的A320主翼。。。)質量非常穩定。 還有。。。中國ZF砸了4億美元(25億rmb)在開發C系列上。其實是砸給了沈飛。。。TMD真敗家。。。丟人! 112做出來的東西有時候能與HAL有一拼。 西飛做出來的東西有時候能與空客英國Broughton有一拼。 113作出來的東西有時候能與達索的有一拼。 如果純從管理上來看如果我是中航頭早把112給重組了。 http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1302/864293.html |
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